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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by bigbenhotness, Oct 16, 2019.

  1. BURGH43STEL

    BURGH43STEL Well-Known Member

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    What loss is hurting the offense more? Ben or Brown?
     
  2. AskQuestionsLater

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  3. Formerscribe

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    No, it's bias on your part and others. You can't stand giving Brown credit for anything, so you make excuses. You also ignore the fact that Vick was a shell of what he had been by then.

    If you want to delude yourself into thinking the loss of Brown isn't part of the offense's struggles this year, that's on you.
     
  4. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    We don't know. I'm assuming Roethlisberger, but both are significant.

    All we do know is the offense looked like garbage the one game it had with a healthy Roethlisberger this season.
     
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  5. BURGH43STEL

    BURGH43STEL Well-Known Member

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    Nah bro QB play is the more significant factor.
     
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  6. BURGH43STEL

    BURGH43STEL Well-Known Member

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    How can so many others be wrong? The Steelers choose Ben over AB.

    Brown was a great player for the team. That has nothing to do with this discussion.

    Maybe you don't realize it but you proved my point about QB play. I don't need to say anything else. Hahaha
     
  7. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Steelers cut bait with Brown at just the right time. You should be praising the move because they usually wait too long. AB may have helped offense production game wise, but he was not going to help the team improve moving forward. JuJu will make the HOF without his help, bank on it.
     
  8. Blast Furnace

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    You're not making sense, you're not even on topic.

    This is about you and others trying to pass judgment on JuJu when he doesn't have the same QB that allowed AB to shine.

    Make all the excuses you want for AB's lack of production without Ben but so far this year, JuJu had an injured Ben in game 1 while also facing a NE team that routinely takes the best weapon away, including Brown. A 2nd year QB thrust into the starting job that hadn't worked with JuJu in training camp and a game with a 3rd string QB.

    But yeah, go ahead and try and claim JuJu isn't up to the task. You can all enjoy your fake victory lap.
     
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  9. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Why are you saying no when I said I suspect Roethlisberger is the larger factor, which agrees with your point?

    It's funny how you think it is appropriate to guess what would have happened if Roethlisberger playing, but you don't want anybody who disagrees with your overall point of view to do the same thing. Either we can know what would have happened or we can't. Be consistent.
     
  10. Formerscribe

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    It's absolutely on topic. People's refusal to acknowledge the significance of the loss of Brown is absolutely relevant to this discussion.

    Also, I reject your premise regarding the opener. You are claiming Roetlhisberger was hurt during that game. We don't know that. We know his elbow was bothering him after the game and something tore by the time he left the Seattle contest, but there is no real evidence that it was an issue all through the opener.

    During the preseason, didn't you insist that even a significant drop-off in Smith-Schuster's numbers wouldn't be proof of anything? You were making excuses for his numbers declining before the season started. It sure seems like you just don't want to acknowledge the impact of losing Brown on the offense in general and Smith-Schuster in particular.

    The bottom line is he's not producing like a No. 1. It's not about slamming him. It's about understanding just how much losing Brown hurt that offense, something I've been saying all along while others look for any possible way to avoid acknowledging it.
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Without Ben, we can't gauge anything.

    We've already discussed this, you even agreed that he hurt his arm in that game. There was a player that said the first he heard of Bens arm bothering him was after that game. Stands to reason it was the NE game that he hurt it in.

    Even if he didn't, he was playing like hot garbage and NE has shut AB down plenty.

    I don't recall. May have said something to the effect that a drop off wouldn't be surprising because 1400 yards is a very good year and even with AB that could have been hard to duplicate.

    You're drawing conclusions with incomplete information.
     
  12. BURGH43STEL

    BURGH43STEL Well-Known Member

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    It's pointless. You are not going to get through.
     
  13. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Juju has better numbers than brown this year so there’s that lol
     
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  14. HeinzMustard

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    Oh pleeze. No way in hell that 2017 team beats Packers with Rodgers, Colts with Luck or Texans with Watson.
     
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  15. NY STEELERFAN

    NY STEELERFAN Well-Known Member

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    2015 AB's numbers without BB

    Balt 9-5-42
    SD 6-3-45
    Cards 8-3-24
    KC 8-6-124


    2016 without BB

    Pats 11-7-106
     
  16. Steel Hog

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    2017 could easily haves been 9-7/8-8 if not for Boz. 2018 Boz was missing kicks he made in 2017 and we didn't make the playoffs. Agree totally with you. I hope and pray we win each game but I am convinced this team will not get anywhere a SB again with the current coaching staff.
     
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  17. Steel Hog

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    Rather win with class than win with an ass. How's he doing lately?
     
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  18. Steel Hog

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    Offense doesn't rank above 28th in rushing yards, passing yards, or total yards. Wonderful
     
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  19. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Mason is averaging half a yard a pass and I think 5 inches In the air that’s why lol
     
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  20. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I never said they did, it doesn't take away from the fact the pass protection has been good, no Ben or AB some new receivers of course the passing game is going to suffer.
     
  21. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    No way in hell the Steelers lose to Seattle, Baltimore, and the 49ers if Ben plays them this season, it works both ways :shrug:.
     
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  22. HeinzMustard

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    :facepalm:
     
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  23. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    :facepalm::facepalm:
     
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  24. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::rolleyes:
     
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  25. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Man what are you guys whining about lol
     
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