Fitzpatrick trade vs Bush trade

in all honesty, i think Fitzpatrick deal was a better deal than Bush deal. I think we gave too much for Bush. But again, it all depends on where we end up this season. if we pick in the top five, Fitz trade might not look as good but if after pick 5, I still think Fitz deal is better than Bush.

 

I love the minka trade because all his bonus money stays in miami.

I still agree with the bush move as well.

 

I think the Fitz trade is tons better basically because I was against Bush all together. I didn't want him at 20 and I really didn't want him at 10..........

 

Fitzpatrick trade was the better trade considering what we gave up.

 

Yinzer math.

 

Given the franchise's circumstances the Bush trade was way better imo.

The Ben injury changes everything, unfortunately. It's a QB driven game.

In the Bush trade the team gave up a 2 and a 3 to shore up a defensive weakness on what otherwise was considered a AFC championship contender led by a HoF QB. The Fitzgerald trade is trading a #1 to shore up a defensive weakness on what otherwise is not considered an AFC championship contender led by an unproven second year QB.

 

Get back to me by seasons end. Way too early to decide which was the better trade. For that matter, get back to me within three years.


Who knows how either Devin Bush or Minkah Fitzpatrick will pan out?! They both clearly have star level potential. How great can they be remains to be seen.

 

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I agree it wasn't a bad move (and won't be, as long as Bush pans out), I just hadn't put the L Bell comp pick into the equation.

 

We have a first for fitz. Lost a 5th and got a top 4th. Only kept a 2nd rounder for 4 years, well 3 and 1 game. Lost a 2nd round rb after 4 years to get maybe a 3rd in 6 years for him. It still took 3 picks to land bush. We lost a lot of high picks to get two guys that will be playing for us.

We lost two firsts, three seconds, a third and a fifth to gain two players out of four and a third and fourth out of four players that we could of had still hear. We must replace two players as well. When you spend high picks you expect to keep them for several years to build a team. We didn't do that.

 

Who???????

 

might as well throw burns in there. We used a first and two seconds on guys that never saw a second contract. Do we want to add dupree and jarvis? Two more first rounders that may not see a second contract.

 

That was my problem with the post as well. We've seen that argument many times, but just because they are getting the comp pick doesn't mean they didn't lose a third-rounder in the trade. They still gave up that valuable pieces as part of the price of moving up.

 

If I was compartmentalizing, I'd leave that 3rd round pick as comp for Bell, so the Steelers at least get something out of that deal.

 

Lets give it some time for both players,
The cream will come to the top.

 

You forgot Sean Davis.

 

Maybe it's to early but Bush has been getting pancaked and pushed around out there right now. The defense has not improved to this point with his addition. He has 10 tackles in two games. 5 a game. He's at a position that is set up to make a lot of tackles. Edmunds has 13 solo tackles as a DB. Now the game may be to fast for him right now and I get that but he certainly to this point has not shown much of that talent they traded up to get. Only Miami, Washington, and New York Giants are worse. they are giving up 320 passing yards a game one of the worst marks in the NFL. 446 yards a game total. This defense is a wreck. So I hope that Bush comes into his own but at this point he's not there yet. At least we get an nfl starter in this trade.

 

no he's one of those second rounders counted.

 

Burns- 1st rd. No 5th year option. May not see 2nd contract.
Dupree-1st rd. Did get 5th year option but may not get 2nd contract.
Davis- 2nd rd. Got 3 years and 1 gm. May not get 2nd contract.
Bell- 2nd rd. Got 5year and no 2nd contract. May get a 3rd rd. Pick for comp.
Fitz- cost a 1st-5th but get a 4th back. Lost 1year and 2 games in career.
Bush- 1st-2nd-3rd
J Jones- 1st rd. No 2nd contract.
AB- 6th rd. Get a 3rd and 5th. Ate 21 million of his 2nd contract.
Allen- Hawkins both 4th rd. Didn't finish 1st contract. Get a 7th.
Allen- 6th rd. Got 1 season.
Chuks 3rd rd. Sits inactive with fa banner active over him 2years in.
Dobbs 4th rd. Traded for 6th?? Didn't complete 1st contract.
James 6th rd. No 2nd contract.
Smith- 6th rd. No 1st contract.

the jist of this is we keep very few players very long for higher picks and get lower picks in return and then the lower picks never seem to pan out either.

udfas - fieler, av, foster, hilton, kelly, banner, grimble, holten, ola, dangerfield, canaday, berry, boswell, nix,hodges, finney. That's 16 on our 53 man roster.

 

Well lets hope anyways since well you know with the current coaches and all.