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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steel1031, Sep 3, 2012.

  1. Cru Jones

    Cru Jones Well-Known Member

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    WOW 25 mil guaranteed, and he won't sign. That's crazy... Yes V. Jackson might make 5 mil more over 5 years, but he also has to wear a Bucs jersey during that time.
     
  2. blair

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    We need him, but if this is his position, I agree. Two more years with the Steelers - which will be 2 of his prime years, then he can go the free agent route.
     
  3. freakfontana

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    sincerely i woyld noy pay even 10 milion per year with 25 sb
     
  4. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    anything could happen but that doesn't mean we are off the hook with those contracts. why would we get rid of our best defensive player so we could sign our not best offensive player? lol now that makes no sense to me.

    we are sitting on 9.5 mil. in dead money. dropping players still under contract still cost the team. kemo is on the books this year for near 3 mil. they don't just go away. :cool:[/quote

    , but it opens up cap space, expect cap penalty that the team gets, I believe. Plus look at the fact that Taylor is 32 and Harrison will be 34. I'd spring for the 26 year old guy.[/quote:i8l9hl9v]


    that's alot of eatin. ike is still playing at a very high level and the guy has not missed games over his career. harrison didn't start playing until a few years ago. he's still a force. we can't keep taking from the defense to pay the offense, until they prove they can carry the team like the defense has done for a long time. for Godsake's we have larry foote starting.

    we don't have a guy to replace harrison. at least not at the level the guy plays at. the LB'ers are the stregnth of this defense, they will make more money. we are older in the defensive backfield but we have some youth to mix in and those old guys are still 3 of the best in the business. dropping max and kemo's dead money next year could save over 5 mil.. add hines dead money and what we have right now on hand and your looking at alot of cash to work with. alot depends on the RB situation. 3 guys fighting for two spots really, or at least two decent paydays.
    :cool:
     
  5. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    WOW 25 mil guaranteed, and he won't sign. That's crazy... Yes V. Jackson might make 5 mil more over 5 years, but he also has to wear a Bucs jersey during that time.[/quote:8ropqddo]


    I just don't get it either. IF this is true, and La Canfora is usually a pretty reliable source, why would Wallace not accept what appears to be a pretty fair and generous offer from the Steelers? Many theorized that the reason he skipped training camp was to avoid a devastating injury that would destroy his market value. If he could sign a $10 million per year contract today with $25 million guaranteed why would he risk devastating injury or performance regression to take $2.7 million this year and possibly be franchised next year for $10.5 million or so. He could be $7 million ahead plus the signing bonus next year if he would accept what the Steelers apparently have on the table today. He has to realize the Steelers have the upper hand here but they have chosen to try to be fair with him. What if he blows out his knee? What if he has 49 receptions for 653 yards and 4 touchdowns? He is risking tens of millions of dollars by being "fixated" on making $11 million per year. Somebody help me understand this please!
     
  6. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we can get Rick Harrison from Pawn Stars to come in a get this deal done with Wallace. Wallace would take his 5 year 50 million dollar deal and be happy!
     
  7. Jim90

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    yeah Rick would get the deal done, not the old man, he would only offer Wallace 5 yrs, $12 million, (the cheap old fart)
     
  8. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    Your not a rare peice son. It's the going rate.
     
  9. Jim90

    Jim90 Well-Known Member

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    lol then Wallace would say $50 million.... the old man; goes down to $10 million
     
  10. Busman

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    Yeah I can here it now. That's the best I can do son. I have to make money. lol

    Bman
     
  11. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    WOW 25 mil guaranteed, and he won't sign. That's crazy... Yes V. Jackson might make 5 mil more over 5 years, but he also has to wear a Bucs jersey during that time.[/quote:3q4kl11u]


    I just don't get it either. IF this is true, and La Canfora is usually a pretty reliable source, why would Wallace not accept what appears to be a pretty fair and generous offer from the Steelers? Many theorized that the reason he skipped training camp was to avoid a devastating injury that would destroy his market value. If he could sign a $10 million per year contract today with $25 million guaranteed why would he risk devastating injury or performance regression to take $2.7 million this year and possibly be franchised next year for $10.5 million or so. He could be $7 million ahead plus the signing bonus next year if he would accept what the Steelers apparently have on the table today. He has to realize the Steelers have the upper hand here but they have chosen to try to be fair with him. What if he blows out his knee? What if he has 49 receptions for 653 yards and 4 touchdowns? He is risking tens of millions of dollars by being "fixated" on making $11 million per year. Somebody help me understand this please![/quote:3q4kl11u]


    jack i have no idea about it, maybe it's because they won't buy him his own airplane to ride in, :shrug: but if i were to guess, i'll bet it's about guaranteed money thats the sticking point. :cool:
     
  12. Blast Furnace

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    WOW 25 mil guaranteed, and he won't sign. That's crazy... Yes V. Jackson might make 5 mil more over 5 years, but he also has to wear a Bucs jersey during that time.[/quote:r7jsrt9k]


    I just don't get it either. IF this is true, and La Canfora is usually a pretty reliable source, why would Wallace not accept what appears to be a pretty fair and generous offer from the Steelers? Many theorized that the reason he skipped training camp was to avoid a devastating injury that would destroy his market value. If he could sign a $10 million per year contract today with $25 million guaranteed why would he risk devastating injury or performance regression to take $2.7 million this year and possibly be franchised next year for $10.5 million or so. He could be $7 million ahead plus the signing bonus next year if he would accept what the Steelers apparently have on the table today. He has to realize the Steelers have the upper hand here but they have chosen to try to be fair with him. What if he blows out his knee? What if he has 49 receptions for 653 yards and 4 touchdowns? He is risking tens of millions of dollars by being "fixated" on making $11 million per year. Somebody help me understand this please![/quote:r7jsrt9k]

    Not enough information to know that answer Jack. Fact is, we have no idea what numbers are being discussed. I took the bait on the 5/50 report yet there was never anything that confirmed that, so I'm not speculating anymore. I'll wait until something concrete is reported.
     
  13. Jim90

    Jim90 Well-Known Member

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    lol

    Chumlee will be standing next to the old man with his jaw dropped, then says "I only get $8 an hr to work in shipping and receiving , why can't I get $50 million?" old man head drops then says " you're an idiot Chum!"
     
  14. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Troy signed a extension last year he will retire a Steeler in 2014, Maurkice has at least 2 years left on his rookie contract and Mendenhall will be a free agent good riddance.
     
  15. HugeSnack

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    Yeah, he's done more harm than good, right? :facepalm:
     
  16. shaner82

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    I just don't understand the hatred this guy gets. I'm not a Mendenhall fanboy or anything of the sort, but in 2009 and 2010, he had about 1400 all purpose yards both years, and that's behind a weak Oline in a system that isn't exactly RB friendly. Not to mention his 13 TD's in 2010. Then last year behind a ridiculously weak Oline, he still had over 1,000 all purpose yards, and that was a bad year for him. I'll take a RB that has 1,000 yards in a down year behind a weak line. Other teams wish they had RB's that had bad years like that.

    Mendenhall has pretty much been hated on this site since day 1 and I don't understand it. Is it that he's not a true power back and that's what Steelers fans want? I just don't know what else the guy has to do. He's a complete back that is far better than he's given credit for.
     
  17. HawkeyeJames

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    I think with Haley's offense we will finally see the true value of Mendenhall. I saw enough of him at Illinois tearing up the Hawks to know the talent he has. I just don't think the previous offense fit his complete skill set.
     
  18. SteelByDesign

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    It's not just "said on a message board" is just dones't happen. I think the Pats just made a mistake by giving Gronk and Hernandez huge contracts. Honestly if I were the Pats I'd have tried to trade Hernandez this offseason.

    It's the EXACT same situation the Steelers faced when they re-signed Hines and let Plaxico walk. They knew they could only keep one and they went with the hard working team first guy over the guy with the slightly diva attitude. I'm not ripping Mike, I don't think he's done anything wrong, I'm just saying between the two Brown seems to fit the Steelers mold more than mike does.

    We let Nate Washington walk too. I don't think Santonio was getting re-signed even before everything went south with him. Sure it's possible, but I just don't think it's smart to do so.
     
  19. shaner82

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    Why would the Pats have tried to trade him? They want to the Superbowl with Welker and those 2 TE's. They had very little else in that offence. Not to mention he's perhaps the most versatile TE in the whole league. He can play the traditional TE spot, he can go out wide and play like a true WR, and he can line up in the back field and run it down the other teams throats. I would absolutely love to have that guy on our team. Not sure why you think the Pats made a mistake by keeping him. I think he's more important to them long term than Gronk is, which is why the Pats give themselves an out on Gronk's contract after year 3. At the end of year 3, the Pats can get rid of of Gronk and they will have paid him only $13 million. That contract wasn't done like that by accident. There is no such out clause on Hernandez' contract. I know he's hated on here, but Bill Belichek is a football genius.
     
  20. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't call him a genius. He hasnt won a title since he quit cheating
     
  21. shaner82

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    You can hate them all you want, but the Pats are considered one of the best teams in the league every single year. That wasn't the case before Belichek came around. I would absolutely call him one of the best coaches of all time.
     
  22. TheSteelHurtin2188

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    As much as i hate to admit bellicheat is a great coach what sealed the deal was going 11-5 with cassel and its not like they just stopped winning after they got cuaght
     
  23. TarheelFlyer

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    There are going to be BIG changes to our roster during the offseason. It is interesting to think how "big" we talked about this draft being for setting the stage for this team, but this coming offseason may be even bigger. Here are my thoughts:

    Wallace - tagged if no deal
    Mendenhall - bye
    Lefty - Backup money
    C. Batch - bye
    Hampton - bye
    Foote - bye
    W. Allen - bye
    Essex - already gone
    Warren - shouldn't be hard to get him resigned
    Pope - bye
    J. Scott - already gone
    Foster - backup money
    Legursky - backup money
    Johnson - bye
    Lewis - "acceptable starter" money or gone.
    Mundy - backup money
    Sanders - 3rd/4th WR money
    Dwyer - May be the starter, but won't get paid like one
    Sylvester - comes down to his year
    McLendon - May be the starter, but won't get paid like one
    Kapinos - already gone

    When it comes to older players....Keisel, Harrison, and Ike all are in the "danger zone". Harrison, if injured most of the year, won't be back. Some could be said for Keisel. If he starts to break down....he will be gone. Ike, is only in danger if he plays every game this year like the Denver game in the playoffs from last year.
     
  24. TheSteelHurtin2188

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    Harrison is gone no two ways about it i think he is due like 9 mil and i think he has zero dead money left so his moneynwill pretty much just go to wallace
     
  25. Wardismvp

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    Barring a serious injury Silverback WILL play out his remaining contract
    and retire a PGH Steeler.What are you people thinking? He is better at 50% than most LB's
    are at 100%. He also takes care of his body very well, unlike the other OLB on this team.
     

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