Todd Haley Firing was the Begining of AB Saga

Colbert just further confirming things. He said Ben is the leader of 52 kids.. thus implying like AB is saying that Ben is above everyone. Sad

 

Those comments were troubling indeed. I think this might have been Colbert trying to get a message across. "If you go up against Ben, we are going to side with Ben. So best not to go up against Ben." Either way the 52 kids thing was a weird thing to say.

 

It gives off that notion that Ben is "above" the rest. It shouldn't be that way regardless of his stature. No question he's the most important player on the team. He has been since he has became a starter.

 

And its reported the team wasnt happy about that. The young guys probably wont take much offense to it as they are just so worried about trying to prove themselves in the NFL but the vets will. That's why early on we had the success we had even though Ben wasnt a leader. We had vets who could challenge Ben as they were already established before him and he was the one who had to prove themselves to him. Now no one on the roster has that cache to challenge Ben.

 

Thats the thing. I am trying to put my finger on how AB got to this point. I realize I am wearing a tin foil hat here. But I will wear it proudly. I think AB's ego already had him on edge. When Haley got fired it angered AB in three ways. #1. " Haley feeds me the ball. I like that." #2. "I can't believe Ben was able to get a coach fired. Thats not right." #3. "Oh my god, Ben has his boy as offensive coordinator now, I already think Ben under-appreciates me, now he has free reign to do whatever he wants." If you are looking for a fourth ring for your circus here's one. Going by @mcam 's theory of this being about money, I think AB heard all this talk about guaranteed money for Bell, and thought to himself, "I gotta get me some of that. They didnt give me huge guaranteed money. I want a new contract with huge guarantees up front too. What about me? What about AB? Me!!! Me!!! Me!!!"

 

Either way, a line has been drawn in the sand. it will either help eliminate dysfunction or add to it. I guess we will find out next season on the hit show "Ben's Anatomy". New episodes begin next August.

 

So what. No different than having a supervisor at work.
If Rooney wants Ben to be the man then that’s the way it is. Their team their rules.

 

That's fine but we see what type of environment would be fostered when ben is considered above everybody.

 

Ab not the only one that got problems with ben.

 

Ben is probably the only one who doesn't have problems with AB. You never seem to bring this up though.

 

Because other than Ryan Clark I havent heard anyone else say it. According to reports most say he works harder than anybody and was a good teammate. I saw Hines ward, Sanders, even RYAN CLARK etc.. all criticize Ben.

 

Who else on the current roster does?

 

Doesn't fit his delusional narrative.

 

Man, get outta here with that bullsh!t

 

I feel like we have crossed paths.
I may have been wrong or you may have been. Either way, we both agree on this, in general.

I posted in the Ben post about this idea, generally.
I only suggest this concept as an extension of my own.

In other words, good on you. Well done. I agree.

 

Agree on this and I've been saying the same thing with some of my other Steeler pals. Ben doesn't like to be challenged or questioned. He didn't like Haley from the second he was hired. He had his Rosetta stone comment and if you remember they took days before they actually met. Ben started that relationship off on a bad foot from day one. He doesn't like it when he doesn't get his way. Haley had developed a good relationship with AB and that didn't sit well with Ben. You know that hug pissed Ben off but the feud really started brewing when Haley got fired. That's when AB knew there was Ben and then everyone else and that slowly built up until the explosion before and since the Cincy game. The criticisms fueled the flames.There is a trail of breadcrumbs that isn't hard to follow,starting when Haley got fired.

 

I have no idea if we have crossed paths, as you say, or not. The fact that we agree means that either we are both right, or both crazy. Something tells me that if the AB tell all interview ever comes out, we will know for sure.

 

After seeing Haley on hard knocks I’m pretty sure Haley got himself fired. There have been numerous reports over the years about how AB cares about one thing and that’s AB. Couple that with him hanging out with chad Johnson and Terrell Owens and it shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that he turned into a diva.Additonally remember AB and his stupid FaceTime live in the locker room? That was before Haley was fired. In case you need it spelled out for you AB was acting like a jackass long before Haley got fired.

 

And the incorrect translation of the Rosetta Stone comment comes back from the dead. next someone will go back even further and claim AR2 said we have to run the ball more.

 

No one is saying he wasn't but if you think losing a guy who he felt was in his corner didn't help contribute at all to everything that happened this year.....you'd be wrong.

 

Wasnt even that imo. I think he was speaking to how Ben got the man out of town just because they clashed. Certainly wasnt due to coaching because then how do they explain keeping butler over haley when haley's offenses were ranked top 5 every yr and butler has had terrible defenses.

 

Care to be the official translator then? If you can't recognize Ben's passive/ agressive attacks by now I don't know what to tell you. I guess his comments about when Rudolph was drafted and the things he said after he was drafted were innocent as well. That's why he had to back track and clarify his statements. It's not just you but I find it funny how people say they have no problem with the things people say and that the targets of such are being too sensitive. Yet when they read the actual quotes they admit,well I guess this could of been taken a certain way. That means if you can single the comment out. Isn't it in the realm of possibility that someone could find it offensive? I think so.....His passive/ agressive style is well known and documented. Sorry but it's true....

 

It's kind of both and the same thing....no?