NFL refs orchestrate games

I totally agree but theres people on this board that dont see it, I think it's more about the ratings than the betting,this is a billion dollar industry,they want all the fanbases tuned in to the end,we should have beaten the Chargers,the Saints,if we did the division was ours but the whole maryland area would have not been watching the Ravens,but this way they keep all these huge metropolitan areas turned in for advertising dollars,and I agree with other sports,NBA Few years back GS yp 3-1 ,and Cleveland comes back yeah ok,I use to be like u and be pissed about loses now it's like whatever I tune in like it's a tv show but whatever floats people boat,I guess people need something to escape their realties

 

Despite all the bitching Steeler fans, there were probably close to a dozen plays that had NOTHING to do with refs that would have put the Steeers in the playoffs

1. 3rd and 20 vs NO
2. Boswell missed kick vs Browns
3. Connor fumble vs Browns
4. Grimble fumble vs Denver
5. Ben INT vs Denver
6. Boswell missed kick vs Oak
7. Giants' collapse vs Indy
8. Browns missed FG yesterday
9. Mayfield missing wide open WR on 2nd down late yesterday
10. Defense 4th down and goal vs Oakland
11. Ridley fumble vs NO
12. Any of Keenan Allen's catch in 2nd half vs Steelers
13. Any of Ben's INT vs Cleveland
14. JuJu fumble vs Saints

Nothing to do with Refs.

 

Nobody's denying those facts,if u r really good u can overcome these things but the fact is ,it wasnt a pass interference vs Haden in NO on 4 and 2 game over we win ,I dont care about JUJu fumble etc,end of conversation game should have been over,last year Jessy James was a catch it changed dynamic of playoffs,its not just against us it has been for us as well,like Cinci playoofs a few years ago they wanted us to win,few years ago in playoffs vs Chiefs they score 2pt conversation only to give us a tricky tacky holding call vs Harrison,that ended that game, every Patriots game in the last ten years, our SuperBowl vs seatlle,Patriots vs Atlanta sb omg I clearly remember 3consecutive defensive holding calls on 3 and long that the refs kept trying to get Patriots back in the game only for Brady to throw a pic in the end, You can overcome the rigging but they help push it the way they want,they cant make that obvious or no one would watch anymore like wrestling

 

Because they're trying to generate more of a fan base to compete with us?! maybe? It's not too much of a stretch to think. They are a corporation at the end of the day, corporations care about Profits & Growth.

 

Funny How calls are always made or missed on money downs too. I guess thats a giant coincidence as well?!

 

I don't believe anything was fixed. If it were, a team like the Steelers would be getting breaks, not being screwed over. The Steelers, Cowboys, Packers, 49ers and Pats are HUGE draws and have a huge fan following. The NFL would much rather have the Steelers in the Super Bowl than the Chargers or Ravens.

I think the issue is inconsistency more than being orchestrated or fixed.

People keep saying the NFL needs full time refs. I don't even know what that means. The NFL doesn't have refs that only ref because they (by and large) only play 1 day a week where as the other sports play multiple times a week and require far more commitment that warrants full time status. Instead, there needs to be more consequences and evaluations for NFL refs. More need to be fined, suspended and fired for poor work performance when poor calls are made.

 

I wouldn't say games are blatantly fixed but I do definitely think the games are "steered" like one of those Drivers Ed. cars with 2 steering wheels. I'm not going to even point to the blatant inconsistencies in the officiating that are quite evident. No one is that incompetent to do some of the things they do calling or not calling penalties. What stood out to me last year was when Gronk hit the guy on Buffalo out of bounds after the whistle and in the same week Thomas Davis was given a harsher suspension on a actual football play.
The only explanation was to ensure Gronk was available for the game against us. Nothing will change my mind on that. That was a real example of "steering ' games. What Gronk did was 100x worse.
Let's not even go back to the JJ catch.....

 

I can live with football players winning and losing games on the field, not the refs who are given too much control over the game and rarely get held responsible for terrible calls.

They keep adding more and more rules with hazy interpretations that are left up to the referees and then they made it so the refs contact the HQ and some guy there tells them how to decide. I believe it was a Pac 10 games just a few weeks ago where some guy in the replay center not at the stadium and wasn't even authorized to make the call, gave orders to overturn a call.

There is no doubt that being a referee is a tough job and there will be some honest bad calls, but that also plays into the whole "it's just incompetence" rather than done intentionally and helps them get away with making the wrong call.

And, I think some of you underestimate how much money is bet on these games, especially the NFL, it's also a multi billion dollar industry.

 

I've always felt that way also. That's why the Steelers don't get as much coverage during things like the draft. The NFL knows our fan base is loyal and huge, they are a business trying to build up the bottom feeders to attract in new fans who will buy more stuff.

 

I've felt that the NFL and Vegas has steered the championship since a team known as Patriots won after 9/11. Then again SB XL. What a Hollywood ending to generate interest! This year, LA needs help building a fan base and guess who's in the playoffs? LA vs. LA? That'll help with attendance!

 

The league can go back and fine players for illegal hits. Why can't they go back and fine the referee who makes a bad call? I hate it when they contact teams and apologize. That is what kills me. Fine those refs. Those guys will be more likely to be more consistent. The only thing that hurts them is their rating to do a playoff game or Super Bowl....that's it.

 

How many times do you hear the announcers sniff it out say stuff then change their tune because they know if they keep going against the shield, they will be called out for sexual harassment the next dayorsome bs like that ,so they shut up and cover it up and go on with the narrative thru the NFL network or espn,that blame To.lin or AB or some Bs,we lost to the Raiders or some **** like that,like anyone who has ever played sports never lost to a team they should have beat,its sports it happens,no one has a good day at work all the time

 

Lol

 

Yes we are responsible but please don't let the refs off the hook when they're responsible too...