Bubble Screen

I watched most of the first half and some second but i dont think i seen 1 bubble WR screen last night.

 

This might be bad news. They could withhold showing their cards until the regular season. You know, like "Hey, the Steelers aren't doing bubble screens anymore" - then on opening day, it's a barrage of bubble screens tossed to and fro, high and low instead of hike and GO!

 

But they did execute their most successful screen pass since Willie Parker was our starter. Rainey turned it into a 57 yard TD.

 

i dont think we will see all of the haley playbook in pre season. especially last nite. we have to face the eagles in regular season too. cant show the other teams all our tricks!!!

 

Have I said thank you ART II for firing BA recently! Just think very few MT sets
very few bubble screens compared to last year. HOORAY the truth shall set you free.
Todd Haley will set you free of these gazillion bubble screens, MT set backfields
There is a Santa Clause.

 

I need more bubble screen!

 

I've got a fever, and the only cure is more bubble screen!


Certainly we don't need to use it every other play, not even every other game. However, I'd like to see Rainey get a chance to use his speed, in more of a surprise situation.

 

It was obvious that we have been working heavily on our screen passes, which is a good thing, in my book...
The "bad" part, was very few of them were very sucessfull, with the exception, of Rainey`s TD.
Why are we so bad at running screen plays? The traditional type, not the wide reciever "bubble", that BA loved?
I seem to remember that we used to be decent at them, when we were struggling to find a qb, in between Bradshaw, and Ben.
Maybe not so much when (Cough, cough, ouch), ODonne-whatshis name was throwing the ball.
Is their a corellation between, the better the qb, the worse we are, or the less we attempt screen passes?
Or is it more about the O-line skill set?
Just seems to me, to be a very effective tool, to offset a team that loads up on the blitz, against us, that we seem to have forgotten how to do effectively.
At least Haley seems to be focusing on bringing it back. Now, if we can just EXECUTE it more effectively...
This is one of those cases, where I tend to blame the players more than the coach. There are times where this play should be very effective, assuming it is called at the right time, and not over-relied upon.
I think Haley will do that. This game, was probably more like a chance to practice it, than an indication of how often he will actually call for it, IMHO...

 

Am I the only one that liked the bubble screen. It was at least 5 yards almost every time. I don't understand why everyone hated it so much.

 

I am not sure why some fans disliked the bubble screen. The bubble screen was a successful play. I read somewhere that the bubble screen averaged 6.2 yards per attempt. Only in a world where fans hate the OC can those same fans turn a positive play into a perceived negative.

 

I wonder how much of that average was because of the ONE or TWO times, that it broke for a 30 or 40 yd gain?
I don`t recall it ever going for that, although it might have happened.
I think our overall problem with it, was simply that we ran it TOO OFTEN, and didn`t run ANY other, regular type of screen play.
As for the "5 yards every time" comment,
Really?!?!
I saw it get stopped for no gain, more often than not, and in the worst case scenario, the db could jump the route, and take the ball to the house, the other way.
I`m not sure how that ONLY happened once or twice, considering how predictable it was.

 

I remember fish-lips from Baltimore intercepting it.

Over used and predictable formation.

 

you all will get to see it again this week. only run by luck.

 

Gee... Do ya think our D will be familiar with it? Even the 3d stringers? LOL!

 

if not they will be by the end of the half.

 

It wasn't and isn't the play that is bad....it is how, when, and out of what formation we used it. Whenever Mendy was having some success, but BA wanted to run the ball....we ran the bubble screen. We always ran the play out of the same formation, and not only that, it was the only thing we ran out of that formation, or at least defenses thought so.

If you back to last year's Denver game...we ran that play on the 29 yard line during our first possession. I don't have the tape of the game, but I think if you go back and watch it you will hear the color guy call the play in the booth before we run it. Now, if he knows what we are running, what do you think the D knew?

 

This is just wrong. It averaged over 6 ypa and that would be higher if it wasn't used to pad Ward's stats.

 

Arm chair OC's will always have problems with how NFL OC's run their offenses. For years, fans disagreed with play calls, how players were used, ect ect ect. IMO, it will only be a matter of time before the lynch mob goes after Haley. It could be after a bad play call, poor execution by players, disagreement how players were used, and the list goes on.

I'd like to see you provide proof that they only ran the bubble screen out of the same formation??? I don't believe that it was true that they ran the play out of the same formation every time the screen was called. I don't believe it was the only play they ran out of a particular formation. The play had success regardless of how and when it was called. People often ignore facts when they disagree with something.

 

According to one person, they used the bubble screen 45 times last season including the post season. 45 times out of 973 offensive snaps. The play didn't appear to be called as often as fans believe.

 

you get the ball in your playmakers hands. wallace and mendy were the playmakers. one poster is correct about getting hines his catches last year with it. wallace had 8 TD's which was 1/4 of our O output. you get the ball in his hands and thats what they were doing.