Tomlin/ Rooney

Yep, squeaking into the playoffs and then getting destroyed first game won’t cut it.

 

Thats what I was going to say. If there was only a couple of wins, theres a much greater chance of him getting fired.

 

My guess. Tomlin stays, Butler forced out. Possibly Colbert.

 

If you believe this team is dripping with talent (I personally don't, but a lot of people apparently do), then getting rid of chief assessor and procurer of that talent would be insane.

 

Colbert isn't going anywhere. Tomlin would go before Colbert. I do believe Butler might be looking for a new job after the season.

 

Colbert/Cowher were much better drafting defensive talent. Obviously. Offense, though one could make a good argument for Colbert/Tomlin.

 

What does 'better than even chance' mean? Are you referring to the Steelers?

 

I think this becomes much like the fire BA discussion some years ago. Which was how do you justify the firing when the results look so good. Just like then you have to evaluate his tenure on multiple categories instead of just winning percentage.

For me Tomlin comes up below average in player development, game planning, and really deciding what he wants his team to be. The time management isn't so big a deal for me beyond the lack of preparation it shows.

So just like BA if you look at results then no you can't justify firing him, if you grade out the categories he falls short in several key areas.

 

It's not your decision to make though .

 

The simple answer to this is the Steelers are a far better organization than the Bengals. It is a silly comparison because the standard in Pittsburgh is far higher than it is in Cincinnati.

 

Maybe. If you recall in the Cowher/Donahoe saga, Cowher ended up winning even though Donahoe really wasn't that bad.

 

Sadly, Tomlin isn't going anywhere until he decides to go somewhere. I believe that Tomlin has lost the team (has for a few years) and both parties need to move on at this point. While I think Tomlin needs to go, and wouldn't have been upset to have it happen now, I don't think now is the right time to do it. End of the season is the time for changes like this. I think Tomlin is one of the dumbest coaches in the NFL, but I also feel that he's earned the right to finish the season and see what happens.

Despite who is the coach, I will continue to always pull for the Black and Gold to win the day. That will NEVER change for me.

 

Donahoe had 2 first round whiffs... Jamain Stephens and Troy Edwards. Was Donohoe GM when they drafted Huey Richardson in '91? Donohoe's picks were mostly good except for those two years.

 

Exactly, Donahoe was good and they still sided with Cowher so it's not impossible for history to repeat itself especially with this ownership.

 

According to playoff calculators I’ve seen, the Steelers have something like a 60% of making the playoffs heading into this weekend.

 

We go 10-6 next year I'd be pretty excited. It would mean Ben is not as cooked as I think he is.

 

How the hell Marvin Lewis is still the Coach is one of the most amazing feats in NFL history. I know only 2 Bengals fans and if they could they would shoot the guy. Maybe he comes cheap? Maybe he secretly is part owner? It really is something I cannot understand.

 

I can see us blowing it and missing the playoffs but no way can I see them getting rid of Tomlin. Even if we finish by losing 6 straight I just can't see it happening.

I don't get the Pittsburgh papers but I'd be curious to read the sports sections these pass few weeks. My family up that way tell me some of the small businesses have signs in their windows asking if anybody has seen the Pittsburgh Steelers

 

Very interesting thought! I would think Tomlin is a players Coach. I have no idea but I feel he gives them way to much leeway.

 

I question the talent assertion also. Although last years pro bowl looked like a Steeler team. I believe on the offensive side when all are healthy and showing up instead of being a rap star the Steelers were above average but on the defensive side, "come on man"

 

There are 64 different ways that Raven and Steeler remaining games can play out. The steelers finish ahead of Balt in 42 of the 64 scenarios (65%). If you figure difficulty of schedule, Pittsburgh chances drop to 57%. But at the moment , the odds still favor the Steelerswinning the AFCN. And given that the Ravens aren't exactly Lombardi's Packers, this seems reasonable.

 

I don't know about Tomlin "losing the team." I don't suspect that is the issue. I actually believe the players are fond of him. I think the issue is that he doesn't know how to manage which is what I would prefer he knew how to do over being adored!