Would Landry have fared any better?

Nope, LOLandry would have had 2 INTs over the 4 drives. There are some bad QBs starting in the NFL and he’s back home sitting on the couch.

Dobbs was mishandled by the coaches. Open up the playbook and let the man play. Give him a chance. He’s a lot smarter than the head coach, that’s for sure.

 

Others have said it, but I think the problem was the lack of a run game far more than whoever was throwing the ball.

I had issues with the playcalling when Dobbs was in as well - they played safe, but didn't seem to be playing to his strengths in any way. It was taking a leaf out of Butler's schemes.

 

They needed to operate like a contender and give themselves the best chance to win now. They didn't do that when they cut Jones, just as they didn't do that when they refused to promise Bell they wouldn't tag him again and get him here for the final six games.

We saw Dobbs primarily against guys who are currently unemployed. That isn't remotely the same as taking meaningful snaps in a regular season game. We've seen Jones run the full playbook. It's nothing great, but it's a hell of a lot better than what we saw of Dobbs.

 

Thank you for providing evidence that the Dobbs fanboys on this site have lost touch with reality. We finally saw real evidence of why cutting Jones was a mistake and some of y'all still won't face it.

Jones is fine when he has time to pass, which was not an issue most of the game Sunday. The Raiders got one sack when the line misplayed a stunt, but otherwise Roethlisberger and Dobbs both had plenty of time.

Jones might have thrown an interception. Dobbs did throw one and he also fumbled, but the officials bailed him out on that one.

 

The Steelers moved the ball just fine when Roethlisberger was in there. The Raiders stopped him exactly once. Every other drive ended in a touchdown or a missed field goal.

 

No but Rudolph would have done better.

 

The play calling with Dobbs was terrible, IMO. Way too conservative.

 

There is nothing I saw out of Dobbs that made me think "Hey, lets open up the playbook".

 

Two fold problem.
Dobbs has a weak arm. I'm not talking about HOW FAR he can throw. I'm talking about the twenty five yard frozen rope. The throw Neil O'Donnell could NOT make.

Dobbs cant make that throw. Wobbling god damn thing. Released too high and just flutters getting there.

Second part....play calling was terrified that Dobbs would make a mistake. Raiders were daring the Steelers to throw it deep with Dobbs in there.

Did we? Nope. Play called like sissies afraid to lose. Dobbs should have thrown screens which he did and the deep ball. Show the Raiders we will thriw deep on your ass even with our backup.

Oh well...Tomlin and his juvenile coaching continues.

 

It's more complicated than that. The O-line did him no favors and Samuels and Ridley had no running lanes.

Raiders defense did a good job of containing Samuels/Ridley while limiting big plays from JuJu and AB... even when Ben was playing.

 

There is a difference there. Opening the playbook means all your plays which Dobbs can't do. His arm is weak on the frozen rope thriws.

Calling more aggressive plays like some deep balls would have done wonders.

 

Is this (lets make excuses for Dobbs week) he plainly sucked, he practices with the starters every wednesday which is bens day off and thats more time with the starters than most backups get on other teams, you all are dreaming if you think dobbs or rudolph is the next franchise QB for this team, we better look for a QB in the higher rounds in this next draft, and Jones would have moved this team down the field for a score if he was still here....

 

Ben played with the same O-line and didn't seem to have much trouble. Dobbs looked shaky from the start. The coaching staff limited Dobbs in order to protect Dobbs from himself. They know what routes Dobbs is capable of hitting. They know where he struggles. The fact that they felt like they needed to limit the playbook for Dobbs, to me speaks volumes.

 

Whatever you say, man. There's not enough tape on Dobbs yet. He won the game for the Steelers against the Ravens. Played mop up against the Panthers and didn't get much help against the Raiders while he was in there.

Even if Ben had played the entire game, Steelers were not going to win. JMHO.

 

October 18, 2015. Vick is injured in the 3rd quarter, forcing the Steelers to use Landry.
If it wasn't for a 7 yard pass to Bryant at the end of the 2nd quarter, Vick would have had negative passing yards in over a half of play.

Why do I bring this up? The coaching staff planned on keeping Vick in the game. (Tomlin mentioned that to the press.) The injury forced them to make a change. Landry ended up winning that game, with a 149.3 QBR.

Maybe the coaching staff was correct to limit Dobbs.
Maybe he has shown weakness in practices.
But the decision making from the 2015 Cardinals game raises doubts about the coaches' judgements for what the backup QB can do.

 

Can't make a 25 yard frozen rope throw.

#Fact
#Sad that this Dobbs experiment will linger on too long because he's somewhat mobile. In other words...a tease.

 

Dobbs was the right pick. The playbook needs to change when he is in the game. Not the "we do what we do" thats the Steelers mantra.

I would have spread them out...ran all the WR's deep and told Dobbs to run underneath the coverage if no one is open. They would have had to start spying Dobbs...which should have helped open up someone down the field.

HACK

 

Yep. Use Dobbs like Baltimore is using there quarterback.

 

I think Jones would of faired better. Just his experience alone would probably would of moved the ball and ate up time on the clock.

 

We can make all the excuses for Dobbs that we want to. Bottom line is he didn't play well. The Raiders defense has been garbage all year. I can't think of a better opponent for him to get his first significant snaps against and it didn't go well.

 

True, but they were getting carved on on the short and intermediate routes. Sadly, Dobbs lacks the accuracy and arm strength to hit many of those.

 

I know it was a good throw under pressure, bit you are still putting far too much stock in one good throw by Dobbs. The only thing he did right Sunday was scramble twice. We know he can run, but he simply can't make the throws and the team doesn't trust him with the full playbook.

Jones isn't special at all, but he knew the playbook and the coaches trusted him to run the regular offense. He was better than Dobbs is right now by a significant margin. I wrote all along that he was far more valuable to the Steelers than he would be to any other team.

You were right to expect this topic to come up because things went every bit as badly as I predicted once the Steelers had to turn to Dobbs Sunday.

 

Sorry - I meant whoever was throwing in Roethlisbergers place. As in whether it was Dobbs or Jones.

Maybe Jones would have done better in terms of accuracy; but to take the tact Fichter took and play conservative required a better running game at that point.