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My viewpoint since our last SB loss

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersfan35, Dec 9, 2018.

  1. steelersfan35

    steelersfan35 Well-Known Member

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    1. Our defense: We haven't had a consistent defense since our last SB loss against Green Bay. Even though we came close to the SB when we played New England in the AFC Championship, we still had issues with giving up points. Just take a look what happened last year: Even though we scored 42 points against them, we still gave up 45 points against Jacksonville.

    2. Our play-calling: We made a few crucial mistakes by not running the ball during goal-line situations. Instead, Ben threw the ball and it got intercepted. IMO, we should run a more balanced offense instead of forcing throws into good coverage. We also need to fix our time management skills because we all know what happens when Brady has the ball with 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter, unless if our defense can make a play.

    3. Playing down to our competition & Costly Mistakes: Now, I believe that we either have good days and bad days; but today was another questionable day because of what happened to Boswell and our defense during clutch situations. We had a chance to stop them, but we gave up one big throw and that made it easier for Oakland to score. And if Boswell didn't slip on the turf, then we would've have tied it up.

    However, we obviously play differently each and every week, and if you really think about it, teams only lose games when they run out of time or make mistakes, which we did. Other times, it's out of desperation and teams will do whatever it takes to make the playoffs.

    Overall, it's another unfortunate loss for us, but we can still make the playoffs if everything goes right for us, even though we got to deal with New England & New Orleans. Now, I think that our worst possible record would be at 8-7-1, but we have to make sure that the Ravens, Dolphins, Colts, Titans, Broncos, Browns all lose, but honestly, we'll barely make the playoffs, or miss them after Week 17.
     
  2. Steelers '08

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    Just think we were 7-2-1 and are now 7-5-1. It would be a little different if we just got straight up beat in the last 3 games, but we’ve played some of the worst football I’ve seen a Steelers team play in a long time. We’ve stunk offensively, defensively, special teams, and coaching.

    The Broncos game we had and should of won. The Chargers game we’re up 23-7 and dominating at half, but get thumped and lose in the second half. Then the worst of them all the Raiders game. How that team was even in the game let alone beat us I’m still trying to figure out.

    We looked like a pop warner team out there today. Missing throws, blowing coverages, slipping and missing kicks. It’s just terrible. It must be nice to be a Patriots fan. To know your team is going to win most of the time and not beat themselves. Something we do ALL the time.
     
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  3. bigbenhotness

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    Tomlin can’t hide anymore lol
     
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  4. Steelers '08

    Steelers '08 Well-Known Member

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    Plus we were just saying how he was quietly bringing this team along, but now it’s like should he be let go? We just can’t lose to the Raiders. I don’t care if we had the third string QB in for the whole game. That’s how bad that team is.

    That whole Ben can’t win in Oakland is just in his head. Almost every stadium is loud and hard to play in. I’m just in shock we lost to the atrocious Raiders. I thought we’d get back on track after two terrible loses, but I was wrong. Maybe I was just hoping instead of believing.

    I’m going to say this for the last time. Butler NEEDS TO BE LET GO. I know Tomlin is making some of the calls on the defensive side of the ball, but it’s mostly Butler and his scheme. I’m TIRED of watching a talented team fall WAY short of what it could be. Now 75% of that is on Tomlin, maybe more.
     
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  5. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Yep. Not going to watch the rest of the season. Stressing and just idiotic losing lol
     
  6. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    I lied I’m nervous as heck even when I’m not watching lol. I would pay to not care sometimes
     
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  7. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    How about if your like me and care too much?
     
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  8. rocketdog

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    Never been a Tomlin hater but this is ridiculous. That sob got to go. Same old sh*t. We keep waiting for something to change but it never does. This incompetence has been going on since 2010. Tomlin has turned into a Marvin Lewis.
    How come most of the time we sign a player to a big contract he sucks after that? IE, Boswell?
     
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  9. Steelers89

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    Sure, we are talented on offense. But the defense is full of average to below average players. Regardless, Butler's time is up. And so is Tomlin's.
     
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  10. NY STEELERFAN

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    I have said many times this season how bad we have been in the playoffs since our last SB...which was a loss. 3-5 with one win vs a back up QB, one vs a back up QB with help from a major mental break down and one win without scoring a td. Tomlin keeps winning in the regular season so there is no pressure on him. He hid behind Lebeau and Haley letting them take the hits and move on. Well who's turn now Butler???? Fine fire Butler let Tomlin bring in a guy to run his style of defense, it can't hurt.

    We know how ownership is and they aren't going to do anything to Tomlin now or at the end of the season. Scrap the whole defensive staff and let MT bring in his guys, yes that includes the new guy that everyone thought was gonna help our DB's.

    Here is what I know Tomlin is too cocky for his own good. Prime example yesterday, sitting Ben thinking we are playing the Raiders and Dobbs can lead us to the win. I get what he was thinking but how did that work out, enough said. Tomlin's history vs bad teams speaks volumes to the kind of team we are under him.

    Also while we are showing people the door Bos see ya!!!! We have been more then loyal to him and he has just lost it. This team has talent on both sides of the ball and also a window that is closing fast. Something needs to get done unless ownership is happy with just winning in the regular season....I am not and as I will never stop being a Steeler fan but the days of dropping everything I am doing to watch this team might be coming to an end. I cannot give my 110% to a team that refuses to give it back and imo it starts with Tomlin.
     
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  11. rocketdog

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    Could it be that as long as the seats are sold out and that money keeps pouring in, why the need to change?
     
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  12. KnoxVegasSteel

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    How we lose to a team who is trying to get the highest draft pick just boggles the mind. And I say it is 100% on Tomlin. He is in charge of this sh!t show so he has ultimate accountability. FMTI
     
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  13. Steelers '08

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    Agreed. I didn’t get to see the entire game. I didn’t know we gave up a TD on fourth down and then Boswell slipped kick was with 5 seconds left to tie the game. All I can say is WOOOOOOW. Unbelievable that we can play like this 3 weeks in a row.
    They’ll never let Tomlin go. He’s never had a losing season. Is he to blame for the 3 game slide, absolutely. That said so are the players and every other coach on the team. IMO Butler needs to go right now. I wouldn’t even wait for the end of the season. He hasn’t earned that IMO.

    The defense has been atrocious since he’s been the DC. I know Tomlin makes some of the defensive calls as well, but it’s Butler’s scheme. It’s 3 games left to see what they’re made of. It’s gut check time!
     
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  14. Sun & Steel

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    Yep. MT is coaching not to lose and he can get away with it because he has iron tight job security. And we see every year how that works out for The Bengals. :getsick:

    The worst part is there problems are because the owner doesn't want to spend money and Lewis can get around it because he is good at drafting. If he leaves Cincy will go back to bottom feeders instead of mediocre. If Pitts gets a new coach he can make them elite again.
     
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  15. Lizard72

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    Hell, they lost to them allowing less than 100 yards of offense once...doesn't surprise me.

    Was still mad as hell they lost though.
     
  16. Xcursion88

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  17. Xcursion88

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    #1 offense is taking over. You have to score to win.

    #2 AB is a brat. That forcing the ball **** you can thank AB for his little baby bull**** when he's not getting the ball. Shame on Ben too for allowing that to affect his decisions.
    Could years ago in Seattle ring a bell? We threw up and down the field with every other receiver. Success. They took AB away and we made them pay. Ben then suddenly gets it in his head to start throwing into triple coverage on AB.

    Just think...soneone getting paid twenty plus million dollars to make those decisions.

    That's pathetic
     
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  18. Steelers '08

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    Agreed, but it’s on the players as well. Tomlin did have a terrible game. He should of called a timeout with 50 seconds left if I remember correctly and he didn’t. I can’t believe still that the Raiders scored to go ahead on fourth down. The whole team stinks right now.

    I thought last year might be something special, but that BS call on James where the player didn’t survive the ground crap. That was a caught and we should of won that game. We would of had home field through the playoffs. Who knows where we go in the playoffs if we had home field. Woulda, coulda, shoulda!
     
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  19. CK 13

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    Now lets be fair, it was the ancient x-ray machines fault :eek: says bug eyes popcorn
     
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  20. Xcursion88

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    I'm surprised it took them four downs to score.

    We were in full blown fail mode Sunday.

    Tomlin is getting worse. Most coaches get better over time.

    Tomlin is becoming more juvenile.

    He'll knock it out of the park in the presser post game
     
  21. Steelers '08

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    You got a good point there. He does have good post game press conferences. He’s very good with words. A very fundamental talker. To bad it doesn’t translate to the field anymore.

    That said I still think Tomlin’s a decent coach, but he’s definitely made some bad calls in the worst of times lately. They’ll never fire a coach that’s never had a losing season.

    Tomlin’s been really lucky with all the talent he’s had since being hired. He took over Cowher’s team and won a SB. Then took a team with half his players and half Cowher’s players to a SB. Since then we’ve gotten to the AFC Championship game, but haven’t come close to winning one.

    I think he’s under achieved a little bit with all the talent he’s had. He should of won a SB in the last 3-5 years. I mean we still had a decent defense a couple years ago and he’s had a megaton of talent on the offensive side of ball.

    We get the Patriots Sunday and it’s going to be 4 straight loses after that game. I really want to say I think we’ll beat the Patriots, but we never do. No matter how good or bad their playing. The Patriots dominance over us is on Tomlin and Ben IMO. I guess we’ll see what happens Sunday. Playoffs or not!
     
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  22. groutbrook

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    Since the Steelers lost to the Jags at home, I assume that's as far as they were going regardless.
     
  23. Xcursion88

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    Agreed 100%

    The Tomlin project...like my science project....


    Has run its course.

    Ask Dan Bylsma what happens when you don't speak to your players like a coach and basically allow them to do whatever the hell they'd like.

    Then look at Mike Sullivan. They coukdbt be more opposite..Sullivan and Bylsma. Which one is successful and still fully employed by an aggressive organization that's not afraid to fire coaches to get better.

    Tomlin...thank you for coming.
     
  24. Steelers '08

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    Ya but we would of played the Titans if we had the #1 seed and home field throughout, but that’s last year.
     

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