A Poll about Wallace's signing

It's become a matter of pride now. If reports are true he turned down 5 yrs/50 million I don't see him coming back until week ten. No need to get injured playing for 2.5 million. Funny thing is there's a chance that he won't play even when he comes back in week ten which could lower his market value not to mention Franchise tags!!

 

I am sort of under the impression that they should really play hard ball with him. Yes, they haven't reduced the offer, but at this point they still could. I divide the qualifying offer by 16 games and reduce it that quantity for every game he sits. Yes, this is a very adversarial move, but if he isn't here by game 1....that is the path I take. The qualifier was for the season, him sitting any games deserves a reduction.

Honestly, I think if he understands what is good for him, and Hines did this once so don't act like it can't be reconciled, he will get in right around the time of the first preseason game, or ideally at the start of next week. He may just want to miss the heat associated with the workouts in the sun. They break camp...and I bet he reports. At that point, the rubber has to meet the road. If he doesn't sign an extension prior to the season starting....he won't be back next year unless he has a horrible year.

 

I don't think they can still cut his tender. I think it is a use it or lose it type deal unfortunately.

 

I'm also under the impression that the time for that has come and gone. I still think it was a good move. Right now he can come play/negotiate with a guarenteed $2.7 million, or with a guarenteed $500K or whatever it was. I think we have a better chance of getting him in the building with the almost 3 million bones. For half a mil, the chances of him staying home go through the roof in my opinion.

 

Wallace WAS a hot topic but it looks like the fans are mimicing Steeler Management and are moving on to more important Training Camp issues.

Mike......have someone explain to you the expnression about shooting yourself in the foot.

 

I think he sits and gets traded. I don't think the Steelers will commit over 100 million in 2 receivers so they might as well get draft picks and possibly a player in return.

Unlike the Santonio Homes ROI (what was that, a 4th round pick?), I don't see them giving him up for anything close to that.

 

I've been on vacation at a beautiful NC lake for a week with no internet access. Just got back and it seems Steeler Nation is pretty much evenly divided on wallace's return.

I still think he won't return untill reg season especially since there's been quite a few camp injurys of late. He cannot afford that.

I also feel a trade is out UNLESS some-one makes a VERY good offer for him which is possible. T.O. and Burress are at home waiting for an injury to a WR to get back into the League. Wallace offers an option these two don't but that comes with a cost. I personally am hoping for a trade.

Cajun-

 

He could really be hurting his overall earings by sitting around this year. Just think if he took the 5/50 deal, it would start this year. Get the money quicker in your career and have more of a chance for aq second decent signing later before you get too old and lose the speed. Wise investments of that type of money over the long-haul would actually put him ahead of a 5/55 deal that would start next year. Getting the deal now would also allow him to more likely not be a cut prior to his contract going full term. By waiting another year he is more likely to be a money saving cut a few years from now as his speed diminishes. Fact is he is not a goto/possession/need to make THAT play type of receiver. He is a speed threat. We saw this in the last superbowl when we got the ball back at the end. Unlike Holmes who showed to be the goto type of receiver, Ben could not make that happen with Wallace. In this same type scenario now, I could see Ben going for AB or Cotchery for the must-have plays.

 

Robvos,

I agree with all of this. Although I could care less about the money portion. I think the key here for the Steelers is the "go to" guy you talk about. While Wallace has some rare talent when it comes to speed, and overall has good hands, the fact still remains that he's not become a "go to" guy. Even last year, if you were Ben and had Wallace and Hines in equally tight windows at the end of the game on a crossing route.....who do you think Ben would go to? Hines, with no exceptional physical talent left, or Wallace, with great speed and possible YAC? My guess is that he would have targeted Hines. That's the point that Mike is missing in all of this. He simply does not have the ability to go up with defenders on him and take the ball away....something Fitz does regularly. They are NOT the same player, nor should they be paid the same.

....but alas, I have no idea how this will play out. I suppose it's all hinging on what's going on in that man's head at this point.

 

What I've been wondering, if Wallace holds out until Week10 and then signs the 2.7m (?) tender, how much will he get paid?

The full 2.7m (or whatever the tender is, can't recall) or only 1m (2.7 / 16 * 6) because he only plays in 6 reg season games?

 

I think that if he comes in week 10 we should let him show the rest of the NFL why he should get Larry Fitz money. A big heavy dose of over the middle passes. He is letting Steeler nation down big time!!

 

Haha. I have us benching him. But I like your idea better. Let's see if he can earn that Fitz money!!

 

Now that it`s gone this far, I am wondering, do we HAVE to let him sign the tender in week 10?
Can we just say, "Thanks, but no thanks." You can go test the market, we don`t want you anymore, or are we stuck with the 2.7 million tender(Minus whatever they break it down to for the games he missed), and we HAVE to let him sign the offer?
Then what? We Franchise him for too much money in 2013, or just let him walk, after paying him for the last 6 games of this year?
What if he DOES get hurt during one of those games?
Feels to me like he has just created too much bad blood/hard feelings with the ownership/current players, to be welcomed back.
Probably more with the front office, than players, I`ve come to realize they are all just a millionaire`s club, that will stick together, no matter what, but, I can`t see the Rooneys wanting him back...
Shame for us, and him. Mostly, him... Buh-Bye...

 

They were reporting on NFL Network last night that we have had absolutely no contact with Wallace and the staff has no idea what his plan is.....this is so frustrating.

 

Wallace can't be too bright if he thinks playing chicken with the front office is a good idea. Steelers hold all the cards here. I used to like him but now I say let him rot. I'd rather have intelligent WR's out there than idiots who think they can hold the FO hostage.
Also, inb4 "Ward did the same thing" comment. Hines was at least in talks during his hold out and was under different circumstances.

 

And thats also what Heath Evans was saying...there are just certain franchises you dont mess around with and the Steelers are one of them. They will not give in so sign or plan to sit out the season.

 

In this day and age of agents trying to negotiate in the press and players tweeting every time they burp, I find it surprising we haven't heard a word out of either? My guess is Wallace is not listening to his agent, who therefore really can't say anything, and Wallace doesn't have a clue what he is doing, and therefore shouldn't say anything.

 

From what local talk shows are saying, yes, he is ignoring the advice of his agent, Buzz Cook.

I say if he stays away until week 10 then signs, then I'd deactivate him for the remaining games so he has no recent body of work for prospective teams to see. Don't know how much that would hurt his value, but it would be a big FU for sure.

Or if it were possible without losing him, I'd send him to the practice squad.

My gut kinda tells me that they've moved on from him. I get the feeling he's going to be traded before the beginning of the season. I think the Steelers are just biding their time right now to see who becomes available in terms of a WR (to help them) and who is going to need a WR due to injury or lack of performance from one of their own players...driving up his trade value.

 

I just saw this from NBC Sports from an hour ago (Although it is the same thing that the Steelers have been saying all along):


Report: Steelers won’t trade Mike Wallace “at any point”
Posted by Evan Silva on August 7, 2012, 7:29 PM EDT
Mike Wallace AP

Citing team sources, Gerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that the Steelers will not trade unsigned holdout wide receiver Mike Wallace “at any point this season.”

Dulac’s report also notes that Steelers coach Mike Tomlin is “no longer supportive” of Wallace as he angles for a long-term deal. Pittsburgh wound up giving a contract it originally proposed to Wallace — or at least most of it — to fellow receiver Antonio Brown.

Per Dulac, the Steelers are willing to wait “several weeks” to see if Wallace caves. The organization does not anticipate Wallace reporting before it departs from St. Vincent College on August 18, and the Steelers appear to be just fine with that.

The Post-Gazette story is the latest in a string of strong signals from the Steelers that the club will not relent and meet Wallace’s contractual demands. G.M. Kevin Colbert recently told 93.7 in Pittsburgh that the Steelers will continue to stand their ground until Wallace signs his one-year, $2.742 million tender and reports to club headquarters.

 

True. The Steelers will not be bullied or forced into anything but they are true to their word and not spiteful. They will re-start contract talks once he signs, if he does. Hope he realizes the Steelers don't re-do contracts during the season either so his window is shrinking. Another message to other players here or on other teams is that the Steeler Org. is faithful and true in that they won't reduce his tender offer even they could have and they really could have used that money for other players. Even if we loose Wallace we Win respect in the eyes of all other players and that's much more important.

Go Steelers!!!

Cajun-

 

Wallace who? Take a hike, Mike!