Trade Bell for Patrick Peterson?

Peterson is a premier corner in the league. I still feel that the Steeler's Defense is suspect in the secondary. Quite frankly, we have a limited window to get to the Superbowl. Now I understand that the Steelers usually don't do business this way, but I feel a trade for Peterson would greatly enhance our chances to get back to the big show. I think we should start a twitter and Facebook campaign to get Colbert on a trade. We almost lost at Cincinnati because of our secondary. We, as fans should demand this trade.

 

yeah I stole that pic from reddit lol. would be cool if he is coming to the burgh though

 

Bell has no say in the matter. If he doesn't report, he loses the year toward free agency. If he doesn't play, he hurts his value in free agency.

The Cardinals aren't trading for him anyway, but let's be clear on the rules.

 

Isn' the 3rd guaranteed because he is a tagged FA. That's why it's not until 2020...If it was just based on losing him as a FA wouldn't it be figured into next years comps? Also Bell isn't coming in until after the trade deadline probably because he wants to control where he goes and where he can have the most success the rest of the season. If he was traded to a bad team and looked bad it would destroy his leverage. I'm pretty sure he realizes his best chance to boost his stock would be here...

 

I think that goes without saying, of course he would have to report to make a trade, and of course the cards dont want him, and i'm clear on the rules genius....

 

He doesn’t need another accrued year for anything, except maybe the NFL pension or long-term healthcare plans.

He has to deliver his signed tender to NFL offices by 4pm Eastern on Tuesday, November 13. Otherwise, he’s not permitted to play anywhere for the 2018 season. But he still becomes a free agent at the end of the league year (sometime in March 2019), can go anywhere, and Pittsburgh wouldn’t get a comp pick.

 

I’m not so sure about the FA part. I read somewhere the Steelers would still retain his rights and could tag him again.

 

Even Ben just said it would be stalwart 4 weeks until Bell is in football shape. Who would trade for that?

 

Sorry, I was assuming that the Steelers wouldn’t tag him if he skipped the whole year. Yes, they could use the Transition or Non-Exclusive tag.

 

You never know, but a report says the Steelers told him during negotiations that they would do exactly that.

 

And I believe he’d still only get 14.5 million. It wouldn’t go up.

 

I feel Peterson is overrated, but another CB or Safety is definitely what I would want.

 

I don't even think you could pull this trade off in Madden

 

maybe we can get Peterson so he can teach Artie Burns good technique and how not to look on some plays like Dustin Hoffman in that movie Rain Man

 

He's top 10 in my eyes, but not top 3 IMHO. I guess beggars can't be choosers though... ha ha!

 

bad/dumb joke, no offense intended, just needed to vent frustration with Burns. I believe he can play better

 

$14.4MM on the Non-Exclusive Franchise; not sure what he'd get on the Transition tag.

Section 4. Required Tender for Transition Players:
(a) Any Club that designates a Transition Player shall be deemed on the first day of the League Year following the expiration of the player’s last contract to have automatically tendered the player a one year NFL Player Contract for (A) the Cap Percentage Average of the ten largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position (within the categories set forth in Section 7(a) below) at which the Transition Player participated in the most plays during the prior League Year, which Average shall be calculated using the methodology as in Section 2(a)(i)(A) above; or (B) 120% of his Prior Year Salary, whichever is greater.... For purposes of this Subsection, the “Transition Tag” for any League Year is the average of the ten largest Prior Year Salaries for players at that position (e.g., the Transition Tag for the 2010 League Year equals the average of the ten largest Salaries for the 2009 League Year for players at that position).
(b) The calculation of any ten largest Prior Year Salaries pursuant to Section 4(a) above shall include any Player Contract amount resulting from acceptance of a Tender for the Prior Year pursuant to Section 2(a)(i), 2(a)(ii) or 4(a) above, provided that the player played the Prior League Year pursuant to such Tender, but shall not include the amount of any term of a Player Contract renegotiated after the Monday of the tenth 48 week of the regular season of the Prior League Year that provides for an unearned incentive to be treated as signing bonus.

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Raiders and Cowboys interested via reports as well. Not that I/we can't hope for the best bu I don't see us getting him if they're even trying to.

 

Is that up to date? I thought they did away with the transition tag? I thought it was just nonexclusive are exclusive franchise tag now?

 

Pretty sure.... if bell doesn’t report before the deadline.... we can use the exact same franchise tender in 2019 as 2018. The price would remain the same, he can’t just sit out a year and expect to sign elsewhere. The transition tag is actually available if he signs on time and accrues a season this year.... but that price goes up to the 17.5m range.... and it’s highly unlikely the Steelers would use that tag. That being said..... if he signs after week 10.... that 17.5 number goes much lower..... because it’s based on his actual 2018 salary..... which will be a lot less than the 14.5m original offer. They could use the transition for under 7m or so next year.

 

I dunno, G, I took that from the CBA on the NFL’s site. Lemme confirm and revert back.

Update: as far as I can tell, it’s still viable. The 2018 transition value for a RB was $9.6mm. If Bell returns this season, his 120% would be based on this year’s truncated salary (so he’d likely get the (A)-value tender instead). If he stays out all year? No idea.

Update 2: The T-tag is the greater of the top-10 average or 120% of Bell’s “Prior Year Salary”. That phrase is defined as the last negotiated contract, which would be his $12mm salary for 2017 (if he holds out all of this season). So probably $14.4mm again.