We're in Coordinator Trouble

This game is a fireable offense for Keith Butler, but Randy Fichtner appears to be an inanimate object and guess what, Roethlisberger isn't a very good offensive coordinator which might be why him and Haley didn't get along. Maybe Todd Haley had the courage to say "Shut the **** up Ben" a few times because Ben was wrong?

The 2nd and 20 being blown and then 1st and 18, and multiple third down conversions made against them was just disappointing. That Collins run where he dragged seven wimps with him epitomizes their weakness. They're just gutless, emotionless, too complex for their own good and their players, though some talented, don't have the overall talent to back it up.

They need safety play badly, but their corners are underwhelming too. We already know about the middle of the defense. Their defensive line was supposed to be good, but simply have been a letdown.

Tomlin has every right to scream at Keith Butler, and I'm starting to believe that Randy Fichtner should hear it too.

 

When does Tomlin start getting some flak for this dumpster fire of a team?

 

It goes without saying that he does, but historically speaking Tomlin does better when he has competent coordinators that can run X's and O's for him a bit. You know why the Steelers typically have a lot of talent? Tomlin does have an eye for talent, and that's worth something.

Tomlin also has a track record of being the defensive coordinator of a #1 defense (2006 Vikings) so why not possibly have him coordinate the defense?

 

If he's got a great eye for talent but can't handle X's and O's then he should be a scout. Not a head coach.

 

Butler looks like he is being outclassed weekly.

But honestly Fichtner is worrying me just as much. When the game starts and the first 15 to 20 plays are scripted....the offense is at its worst.

HACK

 

Where is that eye for talent when drafting defensive players? He's supposed to be the defensive guy, but our defense is a historical disgrace.

 

It's hard to tell if the Raven's OC is that much better since Baltimore had WRs and TEs running uncovered all game, or if it's simply due to our defense not being able to cover a wheelchair bound paraplegic.

 

He's been a championship head coach. When things go truly wrong in heading towards a first losing season since he's been there, maybe we should look at the newer pieces in place and start there. It's better to under-react than over-react, and the Rooneys know that and it's just the best way period.

 

The D just looks like a total uncoordinated mess.
Been asking for a while now. Where's the fire?

 

I like how you just picked 1 year out of a coaches entire history to apparently prove that he's a good defensive coordinator. lol

Tomlin had no business being hired as a head coach. His resume didn't support it at the time and it's showing. All the top coaches in the league always lose their coordinators yet they still remain top coaches. Apparently Tomlin can't coach without very good coordinators, yet he's somehow a good coach?

 

Ok, so at what point can we start to 'overreact'. When we hit 1-5-1? 1-6-1? 1-7-1?

 

What Tomlin seems to do poorly among other things is overall lack of discipline in all possible areas. Other than that, all's good. This is very obviously not a thread about praising coaches overall performance, I am highlighting the coordinators in particular as issues.

 

Yeah

 

Tomlin is ultimately responsible for his entire coaching staff. If he chooses to remain loyal and promote his buddies or stick with ones who’ve proven ineffective and should have already been replaced, what does this say of him as a Head Coach?

 

The interesting thing about being head coach is that you're the head of the organization. People seem to expect that you will take overall responsibility for how the team does because....that's what you signed up for when you accepted the job as head coach, unfair or unexpected as that may be.

Hopefully someone told Tomlin this before he signed the contract.

 

Well that was his only year as defensive coordinator there, so I had just that to work with.

What's his overall record in the league over the last 11 years? Is 11 years enough of a sample time? You can say Tomlin has been a disappointment this season, but you're just illustrating it wrong. You're close, but missing the mark. What you forget to point out is not having his team prepared for game versus worse teams. You forget to point out he's a pool of emotion and doesn't have enough tact. His approach once worked, but he simply has lost his finger on the league's pulse. He's lost us. But to say he never achieved or deserved the job at all? You're missing the mark

 

He might wana thank Cowhers players, BA and DL For his Champion ship... Tomlin is a ****ing joke, he was a joke the day he was hired, and he will be a joke when he gets fired...

 

What the HC? That's preposterous

 

Oh there plenty of fire...did you check the dumpster

 

Don't forget the Steelers are great because they've only had 3 head coaches in the last 50 years. We must keep praising this.

 

Exactly what I've been saying for a while now....**** or get off the pot

 

I am going to say something that most will not say because they are afraid of the PC police. I may get flak from others for saying it, but I have always believed it. I never liked the Tomlin hire from the time it happened. I always believed he took Cowher's players to the Super Bowls. Those players would have gone no matter who was coaching them. The same can be said for when Barry Switzer took the 90's Cowboys to the Superbowl. He took Jimmy Johnson's team. Jon Gruden took Tony Dungy's Buccaneers to the Superbowl so it has happened in the past. Now on to my belief about Tomlin. I believe the Rooney's only hired him because they are responsible for the Rooney Rule in the NFL that requires teams to interview minorities for the HC job when there is an opening before making a hire. I honestly think they felt like they cannot put a rule like that in and they had never hired a minority coach. What do they do, they hire Tomlin to say there we did it. My only problem with that is there were better minority coaches than Tomlin. Now that was awhile back so my memory may not be 100% and maybe he was the best minority at the time, but I am certain he was not the best coach. As an African-American, I would love for Tomlin to succeed, but I have always felt like his teams were winning despite him and not because of him. I believe this is the year he will be exposed. Years of drafting players that do not fit, incompetent coaching decisions, being players friends instead of their HC, and lack of game management skills are all finally catching up to him and he will be exposed. I hope I am wrong, but once the majority of the Cowher era players left this team, we have been unable to win playoff games. There is no fire with this team and that flows from the culture that is instilled by the head man.

 

Well I'm not going to knock this. There's a lot to be said for consistency. It's just that with this current coaching staff, we're consistently outcoached.

 

If you keep a dog turd in your garage for 10 years, it'll consistently smell like poop. Just sayin...

 

In today's NFL your HC needs to truly know his Xs and Os on one side of the ball. We know Tomlin doesn't have the knowledge on O and he is supposed to have it on D but you could of fooled me. If Butler isn't on the same page can his ass or step up and take over his duties yourself. The fact that nothing seems to be getting better it's the same communication and adjustment issues fall squarely on Tomlin. If you're gonna have your buddy as the DC and the QBs buddy as OC you better be able to step in and fix the mess.
This season is riding on Tomlins competence as a HC. Let's see what he can do. It's time to stop blaming the coordinators exclusively.....