ben spotting

Cool story, that's awesome for that Steeler fan and her dad. There are alot of these goodwill stories popping up about Ben, it's not going to do much to win over the crowd that doesn't like Ben though. There will be those who cling to the past negative stories like a binky and there will be those who think it's a ruse. I've said it a dozen times, Ben came into the league a good guy and just lost his way with fame and fortune. He hit rock bottom and straightened his ass out.

I posted this link a couple weeks ago to another feel good story about Ben but it didn't get any play around here, must have been a slow week on the message boards

http://triblive.com/home/1977462-74/roe ... 2012-april

I like these couple of parts by Colon;

“People love to talk about when you are down and doing wrong,” Colon said. “But they don’t say anything when you are a married man, not cheating on your wife, having a kid, being an example in the community — they don’t want to talk about that. When you are on the straight and narrow, getting your life together and doing the right things, nobody wants to talk about you.”

and...

“You are always going to have the (jerks), so to speak, that will say some negative about what he’s doing,” Colon said. “For the people who know him and love him, we know where he is at. People have to start clapping on how his progression has been and forget about all the things he has been through.”

But people on a message board and opposing fans everywhere know Ben better then his teammates and the people closest to him.

 

Guilty conscious much, Shaner? Where did I mention your name? I know I am not going to convince you or others to change their mind, I said as much in my first paragraph, didn't you see that? I'm sure it rubs you the wrong way that all these good things are being written about Ben, makes it harder to defend your stance. It was much easier for you and others when Ben was being a dickhead. Hate whoever you want Shaner, you come across as a hate monger, that's your problem. If you can't see how inherently wrong your post is, well that's also your problem. You're going to roll around in your hate like a pig in mud and continue to ignore that people who actually KNOW Ben are dispersing the myth that he's some horrible human being.

 

First of all, thanks for the link. It's a refreshing story about #7.
Ben has become a very polarizing topic of discussion for Steeler Nation. My family and I experienced his sense of entitlement at TC for a few years in Latrobe. He was by far the most distant of all the Steeler "star" players. I've heard the stories about his treatment of people in the 'Burgh and of course the terrible allegations that he was punished for by the NFL.
The bottom line is that nobody knows the full extent of the truth. We can speculate all we want but the fact remains that we just don't know.
What I do know is that people can and do change all the time. It's just as short-sided to suggest that he's a terrible person as it is to think he should be absolved of all his past behaviors.
The truth typically falls somewhere in the middle and I think that's probably accurate here.
It's hard to change and Ben seems to be making a concerted effort to do just that. I applaud him for the turn-around and to suggest that it's all a PR stunt is self-serving to one's own opinion of the topic.
The fact remains that we just don't know. All we can do is draw conclusions based on his behavior now and moving forward.
A reasonable response in my opinion would be to judge him based on his present behavior and attitude like he was judged for his past behavior and attitude.
I for one am willing to do that for him as I would anybody else.
Just my two cents.

 

Another stranger who thinks he knows Ben better then his family and friends. Conspiracy nut huh?[/quote:1vvt48pe]

And I could spin the mirror back at you. You don't know me at all or even Ben for that matter.

Let's be clear, I believe every word of this piece. It serves nothing to think otherwise. But, if you don't think this is something to balance the scales then if i'm conspiritorial you are gullible.

If you aren't then why don't we read about every star athelete that doles out an autograph?

No big deal, just calling it as I see it man.

PS- I don't get into conspirasies...[/quote:1vvt48pe]

Any spin you put on it is totally self serving, you'll just bend it to fit your beliefs. I don't claim to know Ben at all, but I think even you would agree that Colon does. So rather then take 3rd party stories and gossip as the gospel, I'll put more stock in what his friends say. If you think Ben has gotten married, went back to school to get his degree and is having a child as a PR stunt and a way to balance the scales, I'm sorry but you are a conspiracy nut of the highest order. There is nothing even remotely gullible about it, the fact that you think so is just mind boggling

 

lol, I haven't heard that in forever, must be a fellow big 80's compatriot :music: