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  1. Blast Furnace

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    that's one game my friend. he ain't no drew brees. close only counts in horseshoes and hand granades. we deserve better then pretty good. yes, it makes a difference if they can see well over the linemen. charlie is your comparison? big deal. heck tyler palko went 18 of 28 against us, do you want him too? he even played for our OC. where you are getting this naive crap? if the kid was so great, every team in the league would be knocking their doors down to get him. they are not and for a reason. if he's so good they would have kept him, bottom line. so, yes he's a browns reject. i for one don't want the kid. nor do i want brees or flutie. :cool:[/quote:2gwsc3of]

    Not for nothing but Drew Brees wasn't Drew Brees until he got to NO, so who's to say Colt wouldn't do better playing for a real team. I'd settle for pretty good, not too many Aaron Rodgers sitting on the bench out there.[/quote:2gwsc3of]

    drew brees was good at SD. colt in 3 years = 20 td's-20 int.- 12 fumbles. i doubt he will come for league minimum or want to sit the bench for the next 5-7 years. no thanks. charlie deserves his last year and lefty played well for us when we used him. johnson gets a year on the practice squad and gains a spot next year. he was the starter over the browns 1st pick weedon. the kid messed up his shoulder at A & M. he was a good qb before that. the shoulder is healthy now. he would have been a high pick and we have him sitting in our laps already. :cool:[/quote:2gwsc3of]

    Good at SD, elite with NO, big difference, do you think SD gives him up if they knew what they had? No chance. Besides, you are comparing apples and oranges, SD vs Cleveland? Bet you not too many QB would have good numbers on that team. You're no ways near a good enough salesman to sell this kid you are pushing :)
     
  2. mac daddyo

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    that's one game my friend. he ain't no drew brees. close only counts in horseshoes and hand granades. we deserve better then pretty good. yes, it makes a difference if they can see well over the linemen. charlie is your comparison? big deal. heck tyler palko went 18 of 28 against us, do you want him too? he even played for our OC. where you are getting this naive crap? if the kid was so great, every team in the league would be knocking their doors down to get him. they are not and for a reason. if he's so good they would have kept him, bottom line. so, yes he's a browns reject. i for one don't want the kid. nor do i want brees or flutie. :cool:[/quote:2wb6qald]

    Not for nothing but Drew Brees wasn't Drew Brees until he got to NO, so who's to say Colt wouldn't do better playing for a real team. I'd settle for pretty good, not too many Aaron Rodgers sitting on the bench out there.[/quote:2wb6qald]

    drew brees was good at SD. colt in 3 years = 20 td's-20 int.- 12 fumbles. i doubt he will come for league minimum or want to sit the bench for the next 5-7 years. no thanks. charlie deserves his last year and lefty played well for us when we used him. johnson gets a year on the practice squad and gains a spot next year. he was the starter over the browns 1st pick weedon. the kid messed up his shoulder at A & M. he was a good qb before that. the shoulder is healthy now. he would have been a high pick and we have him sitting in our laps already. :cool:[/quote:2wb6qald]

    Good at SD, elite with NO, big difference, do you think SD gives him up if they knew what they had? No chance. Besides, you are comparing apples and oranges, SD vs Cleveland? Bet you not too many QB would have good numbers on that team. You're no ways near a good enough salesman to sell this kid you are pushing :)[/quote:2wb6qald]


    first off SD didn't want to give him up. he had the shoulder injury and they didn't know how he was going to comeback from it. they had an offense and a coach not built to his stregnths. they had LT and marty ball then. he was still very good in SD.

    as far as that kid, he still is the record holder in passing and total offense at texas A&M. nobody said he was going to start here or that he's being groomed to take over bens spot. we are talking 3rd string QB. what more could you want but a kid that can throw and can run at 6-5 251 lbs. colt won't want to be a 3rd qb. we are set this year. i don't have to sell the kid to anyone. i like him. i don't care much for colt. :shrug: :cool:
     
  3. Blast Furnace

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    that's one game my friend. he ain't no drew brees. close only counts in horseshoes and hand granades. we deserve better then pretty good. yes, it makes a difference if they can see well over the linemen. charlie is your comparison? big deal. heck tyler palko went 18 of 28 against us, do you want him too? he even played for our OC. where you are getting this naive crap? if the kid was so great, every team in the league would be knocking their doors down to get him. they are not and for a reason. if he's so good they would have kept him, bottom line. so, yes he's a browns reject. i for one don't want the kid. nor do i want brees or flutie. :cool:[/quote:2ia9xq9u]

    Not for nothing but Drew Brees wasn't Drew Brees until he got to NO, so who's to say Colt wouldn't do better playing for a real team. I'd settle for pretty good, not too many Aaron Rodgers sitting on the bench out there.[/quote:2ia9xq9u]

    drew brees was good at SD. colt in 3 years = 20 td's-20 int.- 12 fumbles. i doubt he will come for league minimum or want to sit the bench for the next 5-7 years. no thanks. charlie deserves his last year and lefty played well for us when we used him. johnson gets a year on the practice squad and gains a spot next year. he was the starter over the browns 1st pick weedon. the kid messed up his shoulder at A & M. he was a good qb before that. the shoulder is healthy now. he would have been a high pick and we have him sitting in our laps already. :cool:[/quote:2ia9xq9u]

    Good at SD, elite with NO, big difference, do you think SD gives him up if they knew what they had? No chance. Besides, you are comparing apples and oranges, SD vs Cleveland? Bet you not too many QB would have good numbers on that team. You're no ways near a good enough salesman to sell this kid you are pushing :)[/quote:2ia9xq9u]


    first off SD didn't want to give him up. he had the shoulder injury and they didn't know how he was going to comeback from it. they had an offense and a coach not built to his stregnths. they had LT and marty ball then. he was still very good in SD.

    as far as that kid, he still is the record holder in passing and total offense at texas A&M. nobody said he was going to start here or that he's being groomed to take over bens spot. we are talking 3rd string QB. what more could you want but a kid that can throw and can run at 6-5 251 lbs. colt won't want to be a 3rd qb. we are set this year. i don't have to sell the kid to anyone. i like him. i don't care much for colt. :shrug: :cool:[/quote:2ia9xq9u]

    Come on Mac, Brees was not Brees in SD and everyone knows they effed up on getting rid of him. It wasn't just the injury, they had no idea he was this good. And who was talking 3rd string? Lets not pretend that Batch and Lefty are so good they can't be unseated from the number 2 spot. Colt played for a mickey mouse organization that can't develop talent for ****.

    I was joking about the "selling the kid", like him all you want but I think it would be a wasted roster spot.
     
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    :this!: :stogie: :cool:
     
  6. numbah58

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    I'll take Colt McCoy for a 6th or 7th rounder.. No if's, and's or but's about it.
     
  7. mac daddyo

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    that's one game my friend. he ain't no drew brees. close only counts in horseshoes and hand granades. we deserve better then pretty good. yes, it makes a difference if they can see well over the linemen. charlie is your comparison? big deal. heck tyler palko went 18 of 28 against us, do you want him too? he even played for our OC. where you are getting this naive crap? if the kid was so great, every team in the league would be knocking their doors down to get him. they are not and for a reason. if he's so good they would have kept him, bottom line. so, yes he's a browns reject. i for one don't want the kid. nor do i want brees or flutie. :cool:[/quote:1gep4dtt]

    Not for nothing but Drew Brees wasn't Drew Brees until he got to NO, so who's to say Colt wouldn't do better playing for a real team. I'd settle for pretty good, not too many Aaron Rodgers sitting on the bench out there.[/quote:1gep4dtt]

    drew brees was good at SD. colt in 3 years = 20 td's-20 int.- 12 fumbles. i doubt he will come for league minimum or want to sit the bench for the next 5-7 years. no thanks. charlie deserves his last year and lefty played well for us when we used him. johnson gets a year on the practice squad and gains a spot next year. he was the starter over the browns 1st pick weedon. the kid messed up his shoulder at A & M. he was a good qb before that. the shoulder is healthy now. he would have been a high pick and we have him sitting in our laps already. :cool:[/quote:1gep4dtt]

    Good at SD, elite with NO, big difference, do you think SD gives him up if they knew what they had? No chance. Besides, you are comparing apples and oranges, SD vs Cleveland? Bet you not too many QB would have good numbers on that team. You're no ways near a good enough salesman to sell this kid you are pushing :)[/quote:1gep4dtt]


    first off SD didn't want to give him up. he had the shoulder injury and they didn't know how he was going to comeback from it. they had an offense and a coach not built to his stregnths. they had LT and marty ball then. he was still very good in SD.

    as far as that kid, he still is the record holder in passing and total offense at texas A&M. nobody said he was going to start here or that he's being groomed to take over bens spot. we are talking 3rd string QB. what more could you want but a kid that can throw and can run at 6-5 251 lbs. colt won't want to be a 3rd qb. we are set this year. i don't have to sell the kid to anyone. i like him. i don't care much for colt. :shrug: :cool:[/quote:1gep4dtt]

    Come on Mac, Brees was not Brees in SD and everyone knows they effed up on getting rid of him. It wasn't just the injury, they had no idea he was this good. And who was talking 3rd string? Lets not pretend that Batch and Lefty are so good they can't be unseated from the number 2 spot. Colt played for a mickey mouse organization that can't develop talent for s**t.

    I was joking about the "selling the kid", like him all you want but I think it would be a wasted roster spot.[/quote:1gep4dtt]


    brees was brees, even back in college brees was brees.

    as far as the mickey mouse organization, meh.. he has the same qb coach that ben had early in his career. ( whipple) he has the same GM that made brett favre into a SB winning qb. plus they are loaded with first round draft picks all over the team. they have a good line. they had a good running game. teams don't just get rid of good qb's. there was something lacking in his game and they didn't just want to just keep throwing good money after bad at something he was never going to be. :cool:
     
  8. Blast Furnace

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    that's one game my friend. he ain't no drew brees. close only counts in horseshoes and hand granades. we deserve better then pretty good. yes, it makes a difference if they can see well over the linemen. charlie is your comparison? big deal. heck tyler palko went 18 of 28 against us, do you want him too? he even played for our OC. where you are getting this naive crap? if the kid was so great, every team in the league would be knocking their doors down to get him. they are not and for a reason. if he's so good they would have kept him, bottom line. so, yes he's a browns reject. i for one don't want the kid. nor do i want brees or flutie. :cool:[/quote:1qlzmcgm]

    Not for nothing but Drew Brees wasn't Drew Brees until he got to NO, so who's to say Colt wouldn't do better playing for a real team. I'd settle for pretty good, not too many Aaron Rodgers sitting on the bench out there.[/quote:1qlzmcgm]

    drew brees was good at SD. colt in 3 years = 20 td's-20 int.- 12 fumbles. i doubt he will come for league minimum or want to sit the bench for the next 5-7 years. no thanks. charlie deserves his last year and lefty played well for us when we used him. johnson gets a year on the practice squad and gains a spot next year. he was the starter over the browns 1st pick weedon. the kid messed up his shoulder at A & M. he was a good qb before that. the shoulder is healthy now. he would have been a high pick and we have him sitting in our laps already. :cool:[/quote:1qlzmcgm]

    Good at SD, elite with NO, big difference, do you think SD gives him up if they knew what they had? No chance. Besides, you are comparing apples and oranges, SD vs Cleveland? Bet you not too many QB would have good numbers on that team. You're no ways near a good enough salesman to sell this kid you are pushing :)[/quote:1qlzmcgm]


    first off SD didn't want to give him up. he had the shoulder injury and they didn't know how he was going to comeback from it. they had an offense and a coach not built to his stregnths. they had LT and marty ball then. he was still very good in SD.

    as far as that kid, he still is the record holder in passing and total offense at texas A&M. nobody said he was going to start here or that he's being groomed to take over bens spot. we are talking 3rd string QB. what more could you want but a kid that can throw and can run at 6-5 251 lbs. colt won't want to be a 3rd qb. we are set this year. i don't have to sell the kid to anyone. i like him. i don't care much for colt. :shrug: :cool:[/quote:1qlzmcgm]

    Come on Mac, Brees was not Brees in SD and everyone knows they effed up on getting rid of him. It wasn't just the injury, they had no idea he was this good. And who was talking 3rd string? Lets not pretend that Batch and Lefty are so good they can't be unseated from the number 2 spot. Colt played for a mickey mouse organization that can't develop talent for s**t.

    I was joking about the "selling the kid", like him all you want but I think it would be a wasted roster spot.[/quote:1qlzmcgm]


    brees was brees, even back in college brees was brees.

    as far as the mickey mouse organization, meh.. he has the same qb coach that ben had early in his career. ( whipple) he has the same GM that made brett favre into a SB winning qb. plus they are loaded with first round draft picks all over the team. they have a good line. they had a good running game. teams don't just get rid of good qb's. there was something lacking in his game and they didn't just want to just keep throwing good money after bad at something he was never going to be. :cool:[/quote:1qlzmcgm]

    Ok, if you want to believe that Brees has always played at the elite level that he is now, you keep on believing that. And if you want to believe that the Browns are a well run organization, you can have that fantasy too. Funny though that SD got rid of one of the best QB in the league but when the Browns want to get rid of a QB he must be garbage :hmmm: I mean it's the Browns, they must be right, they're so smart, look at how good they are.

    Also, I'll see if I can dig it up, but there was an article on how poorly Colts career has been handled, he had a OC that was straight out of Full Metal Jacket, he was that drill sergeant, and judging by how the idiots who sent him back into the game last season, I don't think the rest of the staff around him is much better.
     
  9. mac daddyo

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    that's one game my friend. he ain't no drew brees. close only counts in horseshoes and hand granades. we deserve better then pretty good. yes, it makes a difference if they can see well over the linemen. charlie is your comparison? big deal. heck tyler palko went 18 of 28 against us, do you want him too? he even played for our OC. where you are getting this naive crap? if the kid was so great, every team in the league would be knocking their doors down to get him. they are not and for a reason. if he's so good they would have kept him, bottom line. so, yes he's a browns reject. i for one don't want the kid. nor do i want brees or flutie. :cool:[/quote:18ccziw4]

    Not for nothing but Drew Brees wasn't Drew Brees until he got to NO, so who's to say Colt wouldn't do better playing for a real team. I'd settle for pretty good, not too many Aaron Rodgers sitting on the bench out there.[/quote:18ccziw4]

    drew brees was good at SD. colt in 3 years = 20 td's-20 int.- 12 fumbles. i doubt he will come for league minimum or want to sit the bench for the next 5-7 years. no thanks. charlie deserves his last year and lefty played well for us when we used him. johnson gets a year on the practice squad and gains a spot next year. he was the starter over the browns 1st pick weedon. the kid messed up his shoulder at A & M. he was a good qb before that. the shoulder is healthy now. he would have been a high pick and we have him sitting in our laps already. :cool:[/quote:18ccziw4]

    Good at SD, elite with NO, big difference, do you think SD gives him up if they knew what they had? No chance. Besides, you are comparing apples and oranges, SD vs Cleveland? Bet you not too many QB would have good numbers on that team. You're no ways near a good enough salesman to sell this kid you are pushing :)[/quote:18ccziw4]


    first off SD didn't want to give him up. he had the shoulder injury and they didn't know how he was going to comeback from it. they had an offense and a coach not built to his stregnths. they had LT and marty ball then. he was still very good in SD.

    as far as that kid, he still is the record holder in passing and total offense at texas A&M. nobody said he was going to start here or that he's being groomed to take over bens spot. we are talking 3rd string QB. what more could you want but a kid that can throw and can run at 6-5 251 lbs. colt won't want to be a 3rd qb. we are set this year. i don't have to sell the kid to anyone. i like him. i don't care much for colt. :shrug: :cool:[/quote:18ccziw4]

    Come on Mac, Brees was not Brees in SD and everyone knows they effed up on getting rid of him. It wasn't just the injury, they had no idea he was this good. And who was talking 3rd string? Lets not pretend that Batch and Lefty are so good they can't be unseated from the number 2 spot. Colt played for a mickey mouse organization that can't develop talent for s**t.

    I was joking about the "selling the kid", like him all you want but I think it would be a wasted roster spot.[/quote:18ccziw4]


    brees was brees, even back in college brees was brees.

    as far as the mickey mouse organization, meh.. he has the same qb coach that ben had early in his career. ( whipple) he has the same GM that made brett favre into a SB winning qb. plus they are loaded with first round draft picks all over the team. they have a good line. they had a good running game. teams don't just get rid of good qb's. there was something lacking in his game and they didn't just want to just keep throwing good money after bad at something he was never going to be. :cool:[/quote:18ccziw4]

    Ok, if you want to believe that Brees has always played at the elite level that he is now, you keep on believing that. And if you want to believe that the Browns are a well run organization, you can have that fantasy too. Funny though that SD got rid of one of the best QB in the league but when the Browns want to get rid of a QB he must be garbage :hmmm: I mean it's the Browns, they must be right, they're so smart, look at how good they are.

    Also, I'll see if I can dig it up, but there was an article on how poorly Colts career has been handled, he had a OC that was straight out of Full Metal Jacket, he was that drill sergeant, and judging by how the idiots who sent him back into the game last season, I don't think the rest of the staff around him is much better.[/quote:18ccziw4]

    hey TE, whatever gets you through the day bud. yes SD did get rid of an elite QB and they darfted a franchise QB to replace him. he's not fairing very well there either. hmmm, imagine that. as far as the browns not being able to bring along young talent worth a s--t, they brought along joe thomas pretty well. cribbs pretty well. mack pretty well. not to mention they always give us everything we can handle for some reason, i'm sure it's because they don't know how bring along their talent. what's that say about us not blowing them out every time? hmmm. :cool:
     
  10. Blast Furnace

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    that's one game my friend. he ain't no drew brees. close only counts in horseshoes and hand granades. we deserve better then pretty good. yes, it makes a difference if they can see well over the linemen. charlie is your comparison? big deal. heck tyler palko went 18 of 28 against us, do you want him too? he even played for our OC. where you are getting this naive crap? if the kid was so great, every team in the league would be knocking their doors down to get him. they are not and for a reason. if he's so good they would have kept him, bottom line. so, yes he's a browns reject. i for one don't want the kid. nor do i want brees or flutie. :cool:[/quote:2op4s28u]

    Not for nothing but Drew Brees wasn't Drew Brees until he got to NO, so who's to say Colt wouldn't do better playing for a real team. I'd settle for pretty good, not too many Aaron Rodgers sitting on the bench out there.[/quote:2op4s28u]

    drew brees was good at SD. colt in 3 years = 20 td's-20 int.- 12 fumbles. i doubt he will come for league minimum or want to sit the bench for the next 5-7 years. no thanks. charlie deserves his last year and lefty played well for us when we used him. johnson gets a year on the practice squad and gains a spot next year. he was the starter over the browns 1st pick weedon. the kid messed up his shoulder at A & M. he was a good qb before that. the shoulder is healthy now. he would have been a high pick and we have him sitting in our laps already. :cool:[/quote:2op4s28u]

    Good at SD, elite with NO, big difference, do you think SD gives him up if they knew what they had? No chance. Besides, you are comparing apples and oranges, SD vs Cleveland? Bet you not too many QB would have good numbers on that team. You're no ways near a good enough salesman to sell this kid you are pushing :)[/quote:2op4s28u]


    first off SD didn't want to give him up. he had the shoulder injury and they didn't know how he was going to comeback from it. they had an offense and a coach not built to his stregnths. they had LT and marty ball then. he was still very good in SD.

    as far as that kid, he still is the record holder in passing and total offense at texas A&M. nobody said he was going to start here or that he's being groomed to take over bens spot. we are talking 3rd string QB. what more could you want but a kid that can throw and can run at 6-5 251 lbs. colt won't want to be a 3rd qb. we are set this year. i don't have to sell the kid to anyone. i like him. i don't care much for colt. :shrug: :cool:[/quote:2op4s28u]

    Come on Mac, Brees was not Brees in SD and everyone knows they effed up on getting rid of him. It wasn't just the injury, they had no idea he was this good. And who was talking 3rd string? Lets not pretend that Batch and Lefty are so good they can't be unseated from the number 2 spot. Colt played for a mickey mouse organization that can't develop talent for s**t.

    I was joking about the "selling the kid", like him all you want but I think it would be a wasted roster spot.[/quote:2op4s28u]


    brees was brees, even back in college brees was brees.

    as far as the mickey mouse organization, meh.. he has the same qb coach that ben had early in his career. ( whipple) he has the same GM that made brett favre into a SB winning qb. plus they are loaded with first round draft picks all over the team. they have a good line. they had a good running game. teams don't just get rid of good qb's. there was something lacking in his game and they didn't just want to just keep throwing good money after bad at something he was never going to be. :cool:[/quote:2op4s28u]

    Ok, if you want to believe that Brees has always played at the elite level that he is now, you keep on believing that. And if you want to believe that the Browns are a well run organization, you can have that fantasy too. Funny though that SD got rid of one of the best QB in the league but when the Browns want to get rid of a QB he must be garbage :hmmm: I mean it's the Browns, they must be right, they're so smart, look at how good they are.

    Also, I'll see if I can dig it up, but there was an article on how poorly Colts career has been handled, he had a OC that was straight out of Full Metal Jacket, he was that drill sergeant, and judging by how the idiots who sent him back into the game last season, I don't think the rest of the staff around him is much better.[/quote:2op4s28u]

    hey TE, whatever gets you through the day bud. yes SD did get rid of an elite QB and they darfted a franchise QB to replace him. he's not fairing very well there either. hmmm, imagine that. as far as the browns not being able to bring along young talent worth a s--t, they brought along joe thomas pretty well. cribbs pretty well. mack pretty well. not to mention they always give us everything we can handle for some reason, i'm sure it's because they don't know how bring along their talent. what's that say about us not blowing them out every time? hmmm. :cool:[/quote:2op4s28u]

    enjoy your fantasies :thumbsup:
     
  11. mac daddyo

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    i always do. thanks. we will just have to agree to disagree on this subject. :hello: :cool:
     
  12. Blast Furnace

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    Agreed. Here's to the Steelers :drinks:
     
  13. oldschool

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    I hate to be the mediator in this one, but it kinda seems you are both right and arguing slightly different points.

    I thought Brees was a good QB before the injury (maybe not elite) but very good. Apparently the organization didn't agree because they drafted (Manning) Rivers. They couldn't afford both and despite a good two seasons with Rivers behind him and then his injury he was let go. I think it would have been a toss up who they got rid of if it weren't for the shoulder injury. Drew's game had come on enough to make it a difficult decision for them up to the injury. It was injury more than his play that forced their hand.
     
  14. HugeSnack

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    I definitely did not read that entire debate. Maybe like the first half, if that. But I'll weigh in anyway :)

    NO's system turned Brees into a better QB, there's no doubting that. But he was already very good in SD. NO made him better. But mac, you can't really say that SD didn't want to give him up, or that it was the shoulder injury that did it. That made it easier for them, no doubt, but they drafted a QB with the #1 overall pick to replace him -- before the injury. I think their mind was made up. Unless they were going to keep him over the #1 overall pick...
     
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  16. Blast Furnace

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    Yep, that was it, thanks :thumbs_up: What an A-hole that coach is, I hope they do trade him, I hate having players I like on teams I don't like.
     
  17. HugeSnack

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    Yep, that was it, thanks :thumbs_up: What an A-hole that coach is, I hope they do trade him, I hate having players I like on teams I don't like.[/quote:zo0q5n4t]
    Ugh, hazing is stupid in every sense, but I didn't know it could get this stupid. Well, I guess it's better than making him drink water until he dies, but it's perhaps just as stupid in the non-physical harm parallel universe. Does any human in the world really think this is how to make your player/team better? No wonder the Browns are who they are.
     
  18. Yogi4

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    I think that if your starter goes down you want a gamer that can come in and shake things up. Colt is a gamer even with some shortcomings :rawk:
     
  19. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    why rush to get rid of what we have. all they have done is come in and win when called upon. another thing is, if it bothers him to get yelled at( which i think the jerk they had was way over the top) this might not be the best place now. :cool:
     
  20. HugeSnack

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    Did you read the article?

    I thought he whole point is that the guy was basically abusing him more than coaching him, and everyone around couldn't understand why and saw no value in it... and Colt took it all extremely well. He shouldn't have to put up with that crap, but he did.

    I agree that our current backups have never gotten enough credit, but given their ages and injury history and length of time with the team, I wouldn't call replacing one of them a "rush" to get rid of them. Rush? Batch is like 100 years old. I love the guy and welcome him to stay and compete, but I don't see why we need to wait for guys to retire before replacing them or giving them competition.
     
  21. Diamond

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    Colt McCoy isnt physical enough to play in the smashmouth AFC North, he cant run the ball in this divison like he did in college and not pay a price for it, he doesnt have the arm strength to be a pure passer either. The only role I can see for him is as a backup that doesnt have to take a 16 game beating....
     
  22. Myronwemissyinz

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    Thats what we are looking for him to be.

    I went on record during the draft...Trade a 6 or 7 for him!! I liked the idea!! Still do!!
     
  23. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    yes i read the article. that was my point when i said the jerk they had was way over the top. heley's not known for kid gloves like colt has been used to in HS and college. that was the point i was trying to get across. so charlie is like 100? he's our 3rd string qb. he has shown he can win. he doesn't have alot of wear and tear the last 75 years either. nor does lefty. yea, he's been injured. so has troy, so has colon,so has sanders,so has ben, so has harrison and woodley, so what? we keep them. i'm just asking why? they may only want a 6th or 7th, but i doubt colt wants to play for $ 3.95. he's a first rd. draft pick. a stretch of one, but still. we can't sign our own right now, and backup qb is the biggest concern? we have 4 of them. :cool:
     
  24. Blast Furnace

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    yes i read the article. that was my point when i said the jerk they had was way over the top. heley's not known for kid gloves like colt has been used to in HS and college. that was the point i was trying to get across. so charlie is like 100? he's our 3rd string qb. he has shown he can win. he doesn't have alot of wear and tear the last 75 years either. nor does lefty. yea, he's been injured. so has troy, so has colon,so has sanders,so has ben, so has harrison and woodley, so what? we keep them. i'm just asking why? they may only want a 6th or 7th, but i doubt colt wants to play for $ 3.95. he's a first rd. draft pick. a stretch of one, but still. we can't sign our own right now, and backup qb is the biggest concern? we have 4 of them. :cool:[/quote:j9ago2j7]

    He was more then a jerk, he's a ****ty coach. Is it any wonder Colt didn't do any better? The article said it itself, Mangini and that OC were pissed that Colt was forced upon them and proceeded to act like 12 year olds. And Haley is nothing like that idiot, Haley is fiery while the other was just plain abusive.
     
  25. numbah58

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    Colt McCoy was a 3rd round pick mac..
     

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