Bells actions

No one has leverage at this point. He can only get the tagged amount.

He can sit out till week 10 to get an accrued season getting him closer toto free agency. The Steelers can keep him tagged all season, no need to rescind.

Bell was offered 60mil for 5yrs, not sure how much was guaranteed. This year he was offered 70mil for 5yrs with 10mil guaranteed, which is garbage.

Bell deserves a better guarantee, he not only runs, he blocks and lines up wide at receiver.

James Conner is still unproven, Ridley is a special teamer.

He can't be traded till he signs the tag.

Colbert has no leverage, no one does right now.

 

BS guy. Why does he deserve a better guarantee? Remember he was suspended twice. You don’t think that’s cause for concern?

 

Nope. Not for me, especially when he's touched the ball over 400 times last season, 85 of those were receptions. He almost never comes off the field, no need when he can play receiver. Teams can't play their base D, he'll line up out wide. Defense can't go nickel or he'll plow right thru.

 

This! What is he....one failed test from a year-long suspension? Ridiculous.

 

Well you in a very small Minority and I suspect if you were spending your own money you’d think differently.
It’s pretty much asinine to give a guy who’s been suspended twice a large amount of guaranteed money.

 

He doesn't come off because he doesn't want to. They literally run him to death and he disappears in the big game because he is exhausted.

 

Wouldn't that be on Tomlin or the OC to make sure he's fresh late in games, the season & postseason. I thought Bell was only suspended for weed once and the other time for missing a test which he appealed and won.

 

It's on tomlin but he has shown if a player says he is good to go, he leaves them in. His second fail was for missing the scheduled test and he claimed new phone and didn't get called to say the test was at such and such time. Under the rules a missed test is a fail. He appealed and lost hence hte second four game suspension.

 

I believe the going assumption was that only 10 million was guaranteed. He's playing on a 14 million tag this year (if he plays). I believe it's $800k a week he loses?

he can hold out until week 10, but he loses that money and the Steelers don't have to activate him at that point or they can rescind his tag. Not sure if that takes away their compensation for the free agent loss.

This is a dumb move as he's going to be a year older and there are teams that will sign him, but he's banking on them seeing he's concerned about his longevity.

Not to mention, that his style of running doesn't suit the blocking most teams use. He's not going to give you too many 20+ or 30+ runs either. He had just 3 last year.

You can look at that and say he's on the downside of his RB career already.

 

Bell will show up to collect his $$ which amounts to over three quarters of a million dollars per game. In my estimation, it will be sooner rather than later.

If it's before the trade deadline, trade him. If it's after, he's not worth the drama and baggage and simply rescind the tag.

The Steelers have leverage. It's their team. It's rolling forward with or without Bell. He's chosen to make it without. The team has been vocal about their support for Conner.

Conner did fine. Ridley did fine, both last year and this year in preseason.

Bell won't admit it, but a lot of his success has to do with the offensive line. As for him lining up at WR, the vast majority of his receptions are on a dump option out of the backfield. This attribute is grossly over stated. If Bell was so good at wide receiver he'd be a wide receiver. He's a good pass blocker, but this doesn't warrant 18 mill a year or whatever he wants.

Time to move on from Bell. He's lost his teammates. He's lost the majority of fans.

We'll see how great he is without Pouncey, Decastro, Gilbert, et al.

 

edit your work, ur grammar/spelling alone knocks u down to at least C and thats not considering your content

 

Even if it cost us a ring, I don't want the guy back because he's all bad mojo from day 1. Got busted for smoking weed then suspended, his mysterious last minute injury kept us from the Superbowl in championship game against Patriots, last 2 years he's crying about money when he's very well paid. For God sake can we please trade this dude & move on??

 

I was speaking contract wise since it's the basis of he OP question.

Off the field there is NO comparison ...... Bell isn't anywhere near Woodaon!!

Cajun

 

What tax bracket are you in that 10 mil is garbage? I'd sign up for that garbage in a heartbeat. I'm a blue collar worker and no one in my profession would get away with what Bell has and still have a job. Also, you have to be a special kind of arrogant to scoff at 70 mil over 5 years and also expect payment up front for work you may never do.

 

To compare..

"Todd Gurley signed a 4 year, $57,500,000 contract with the Los Angeles Rams, including a $21,000,000 signing bonus, $45,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $14,375,000. In 2018, Gurley will earn a base salary of $950,000 and a signing bonus of $21,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $7,228,306 and a dead cap value of $24,028,306."

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/todd-gurley-16734/

""Pittsburgh reportedly upped their offer by $10 million total compared to last year's, which would've paid Le'Veon $14 million annually"

https://www.12up.com/posts/6119093-...elers-contract-offer-le-veon-bell-turned-down

So basically Bell is just being unreasonable. Can't win with this guy. << pun intended.

 

It was not in the Steelers' favor to F-Tag Bell, it's not chump change. It will cost them 25 mil + for just 2 years and that makes Bell the highest paid RB in the league period. Add to the 25 mill his next contract, meaning next season where ever, and not only will he be the highest paid RB ever but he'll be up there with the Franchise QBs! If you take tag money and compare it guaranteed money wise, the gulf is even larger. This man, all in all, will make out like a bandit and no one is saying this. That kind of money is up there in the highest tier of the league. So, don't give me the sacrifice to do right speech.

But!

He has us, and we have to pay, that's it. He holds the cards and the money.

 

If... and for the record i see him signing before game 1 because he is 100% about the money.... .if he sits out till week 10 he loses about 8 million of his tag amount

BUT IF he is still sitting out around week 7...i pull the tag and let him try to earn his mega deal elsewhere with half the season gone... he would need to learn a new system...new teammates... move... what good could he do us down the stretch... either Conner proves himself for 7 weeks.. .or the Steelers have lost games they should have won and the Team didn't really want to hear from Bell after his selfishness puts the season in jeopardy

HACK

 

Here's where I think the irony is.....

Bell wants to be paid as a RB and a WR.....
But he doesn't want 400 touches or to be run into the ground..... isn't that like the anti-WR personality?
"Give me the damn ball, I could have won the game, if they gave me the ball more"

 

There has been one player who was franchised and sat out the whole season but it turned out OK for the skins:

DT Sean Gilbert, Washington Redskins (1997): Gilbert took protesting the franchise tag to a new level by sitting out the entire season. In April 1998, the Carolina Panthers signed him to an offer sheet. The Redskins chose not to match it and received two first-round picks in return.

 

He played two years on the tag but also another thing he doesn't play with a position with a short shelf life as rb. Rodgers at 34 just got the biggest deal in nfl history. No rb EVER at 34 will get any huge deal my whole point Is they knew they couldnt agree to a long term deal so they opted otherwise.

 

If you rescind the tag then you don't get the compensatory pick when he signs elsewhere. That will likely be a 3rd round pick and it would be incredibly stupid of the Steelers to give that up just to try to screw with Bell.

 

At the end of the day, I could care less if Bell reports or not. I know it his right to not report and sign. I know that he is within the rules. I know that he is doing what he thinks is best for him. He has all the right in the world to do that. Just like I have the right as a fan to not like what he is doing. So as far as I am concerned, he can go to hell and move on to another team. There are stupid teams out there that will pay him. He will not be as successful. We have had several Steelers move on because they wanted more than what the team was willing to give them and they were not very successful after leaving. So let his ass hit the door and we can rally behind and support James Conner.

 

Should have used the non exclusive tag and his market value would have been determined.