coach kug speaks

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how true this is about adams. if he can look decent against these guys, it will only help. having to practice against them every week has got to help this kid more than most know. i wish we still had casey, smith and keisel for these guys to practice against. they would learn alot of tricks to the trade and see near everything that will be thrown at them by the best. i hope heyward, hood and mclendon can throw enough at them for improvement. they sre still learning themselves, so keisel and casey helping will be not only huge for the d-line but huge for the young o-line. good stuff though from the coach. as i said after the draft, we drafted smarts this year. every pick we got, has a good head to go along with physical talent.

 

i think we have truely reloaded instead of rebuilt, and not only player wise but a couple of really good coaches.

 

Agreed.

While I've always respected Tomlin, his initial choice of coaches was less than great. But in the last year or two we've picked up some quality staff.

 

i tend to write some of that off with tomlin because he was brand new and still young as far as head coaches go. it's a different animal. as long as he rights it(as it looks like he's done) i'll consider it growing pains.

 

Yeah and we did do ok those years as well

 

I think he handled it about the only way he could of. Leaving DL alone was a no brainer and I don't think he had much choice but to promote BA to OC. Tomlin was already replacing an iconic coach with himself and to throw a new OC from outside into the mix, I think it would have been too much. Bringing in Kug was great, I think now we are really going to see Tomlins stamp on this team moving forward.[/quote:zq6xagyh]

i was also refering to carnell too. haley, we don't know yet.

 

I think he handled it about the only way he could of. Leaving DL alone was a no brainer and I don't think he had much choice but to promote BA to OC. Tomlin was already replacing an iconic coach with himself and to throw a new OC from outside into the mix, I think it would have been too much. Bringing in Kug was great, I think now we are really going to see Tomlins stamp on this team moving forward.[/quote:1tqhxays]

i was also refering to carnell too. haley, we don't know yet. [/quote:1tqhxays]

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we will find out alot this year about his hire. scottie montgomery is another young one. we may have to see what he does with a possibly discontent player and a few newbies. these 3 coaches will earn their money this year, but what a tremendous amount of talent we have laid in their laps.

 

I had thought that his blocking scheme was supposed to help alleviate the types of injuries they were having. I think Bigsnack did a whole write-up on the way it meshes with the new offense.

 

Thanx, I liked the interview.

 

He is finally given some pieces to work with. Now we will see what an Oline coach he is.

 

Kugs, Jerry O, Carnell I like all of these coaches.And like the poster above me said
they are finally bringing in some talent for him. We should be much improved on the line this year, along with a new OC that understands the run game, I think we will be right up there
with the other playoff caliber teams.

 

do you mean we haven't been in the past ?

 

Boy, I don't know about you people, you guys take everything people say out
of context. All I said is we would be right up there with the other playoff caliber teams.
Did I say we were not in the past?

 

i just asked. to listen to some on here you'd think we never won a game sometimes.

 

I think he handled it about the only way he could of. Leaving DL alone was a no brainer and I don't think he had much choice but to promote BA to OC. Tomlin was already replacing an iconic coach with himself and to throw a new OC from outside into the mix, I think it would have been too much. Bringing in Kug was great, I think now we are really going to see Tomlins stamp on this team moving forward.[/quote:1ak16l6v]
Leaving LeBeau "alone" -- that is, keeping him on staff and letting him run his defense however he wants -- seems like a no brainer now, and it was to smart people at the time, but if you remember the year he was hired, ALL the talk was that he'd be bringing in his own defense. What he knew. A 4-3 and a system like what he had in Minnesota. Of course, changing 20 years of stellar D, not to mention ideal 3-4 personnel and the best possible DC to orchestrate it all for some 32 year old who was a coordinator for 1 season would be a ridiculous mistake. Tomlin was smart enough to do the right thing, and perhaps it was a no-brainer for him. It was for you and me. But for throngs of fans and NFL talking heads, he would and/or should completely rebuild the defense that didn't need rebuilding.

Not sure about saying he had little choice but to promote BA. I suppose it wasn't a terrible hire at the time, so I'll grant him that. My main issue is how long they kept him. I thought he should have been fired after 2008, despite the SB win.

The BIG bust is Larry Zierlein, who was terrible from the beginning and stayed 3 years. That was Tomlin's hire all the way, and he took too long to fire him. And with our OL talent falling apart as well and transitions all over, we could have really used a good coach. Kugler is definitely an improvement, although I think the praise for him is a little overboard at times.

I agree that all his hires since his original hires have been great. Kugler's a step up, Lake's a huge step up and we haven't seen all he has yet, Haley hasn't seen the field yet but looks like a big step up on paper. Considering his biggest failures were early on, and he won a Super Bowl in his second year, I'll forgive him :-D

 

Leaving LeBeau "alone" -- that is, keeping him on staff and letting him run his defense however he wants -- seems like a no brainer now, and it was to smart people at the time, but if you remember the year he was hired, ALL the talk was that he'd be bringing in his own defense. What he knew. A 4-3 and a system like what he had in Minnesota. Of course, changing 20 years of stellar D, not to mention ideal 3-4 personnel and the best possible DC to orchestrate it all for some 32 year old who was a coordinator for 1 season would be a ridiculous mistake. Tomlin was smart enough to do the right thing, and perhaps it was a no-brainer for him. It was for you and me. But for throngs of fans and NFL talking heads, he would and/or should completely rebuild the defense that didn't need rebuilding.

Not sure about saying he had little choice but to promote BA. I suppose it wasn't a terrible hire at the time, so I'll grant him that. My main issue is how long they kept him. I thought he should have been fired after 2008, despite the SB win.

The BIG bust is Larry Zierlein, who was terrible from the beginning and stayed 3 years. That was Tomlin's hire all the way, and he took too long to fire him. And with our OL talent falling apart as well and transitions all over, we could have really used a good coach. Kugler is definitely an improvement, although I think the praise for him is a little overboard at times.

I agree that all his hires since his original hires have been great. Kugler's a step up, Lake's a huge step up and we haven't seen all he has yet, Haley hasn't seen the field yet but looks like a big step up on paper. Considering his biggest failures were early on, and he won a Super Bowl in his second year, I'll forgive him :-D[/quote:1xth87xu]

as you said he was a first year coach at 32 y.o.. BA and larry z. had worked together in the past, so i think MT was kind of pushed toward that decision by his OC. at least thats my guess.

 

Leaving LeBeau "alone" -- that is, keeping him on staff and letting him run his defense however he wants -- seems like a no brainer now, and it was to smart people at the time, but if you remember the year he was hired, ALL the talk was that he'd be bringing in his own defense. What he knew. A 4-3 and a system like what he had in Minnesota. Of course, changing 20 years of stellar D, not to mention ideal 3-4 personnel and the best possible DC to orchestrate it all for some 32 year old who was a coordinator for 1 season would be a ridiculous mistake. Tomlin was smart enough to do the right thing, and perhaps it was a no-brainer for him. It was for you and me. But for throngs of fans and NFL talking heads, he would and/or should completely rebuild the defense that didn't need rebuilding.

Not sure about saying he had little choice but to promote BA. I suppose it wasn't a terrible hire at the time, so I'll grant him that. My main issue is how long they kept him. I thought he should have been fired after 2008, despite the SB win.

The BIG bust is Larry Zierlein, who was terrible from the beginning and stayed 3 years. That was Tomlin's hire all the way, and he took too long to fire him. And with our OL talent falling apart as well and transitions all over, we could have really used a good coach. Kugler is definitely an improvement, although I think the praise for him is a little overboard at times.

I agree that all his hires since his original hires have been great. Kugler's a step up, Lake's a huge step up and we haven't seen all he has yet, Haley hasn't seen the field yet but looks like a big step up on paper. Considering his biggest failures were early on, and he won a Super Bowl in his second year, I'll forgive him :-D[/quote:374tw8le]

as you said he was a first year coach at 32 y.o.. BA and larry z. had worked together in the past, so i think MT was kind of pushed toward that decision by his OC. at least thats my guess. [/quote:374tw8le]
Well then his mistake was getting pushed around by his first time OC he just met. He should have hired a good coach. Tomlin worked with Zierlein in the past too, I believe.

 

as you said he was a first year coach at 32 y.o.. BA and larry z. had worked together in the past, so i think MT was kind of pushed toward that decision by his OC. at least thats my guess. [/quote:2u7sz2yh]
Well then his mistake was getting pushed around by his first time OC he just met. He should have hired a good coach.

I believe.[/quote:2u7sz2yh]

yes, they were on the same staff at u of cincinnati for one year.

 

Tomlin was hired later on in the off-season I believe... I think by the time he was hired all the decent position coaches looking for jobs were already taken. I never thought he put a real staff together in the very beginning. Especially when the Ronney's probably told him he had to keep BA and Lebeau.

He did a good job finding a replacement for the special teams coach, and it looks like he found keeper in Kulger.

 

i kind of agree. tomlins head was spinning when he first took this on. i think he's settled in and adjusting his staff much better then he first did. heck he was lucky to find his way around at first, so if these coaches were already here, for a good stable organization, i think it would be a no-brainer to keep them around and listen to what they recommend at first. he's since made some good adjustments. he's still a fairly young head coach too.

 

Leaving LeBeau "alone" -- that is, keeping him on staff and letting him run his defense however he wants -- seems like a no brainer now, and it was to smart people at the time, but if you remember the year he was hired, ALL the talk was that he'd be bringing in his own defense. What he knew. A 4-3 and a system like what he had in Minnesota. Of course, changing 20 years of stellar D, not to mention ideal 3-4 personnel and the best possible DC to orchestrate it all for some 32 year old who was a coordinator for 1 season would be a ridiculous mistake. Tomlin was smart enough to do the right thing, and perhaps it was a no-brainer for him. It was for you and me. But for throngs of fans and NFL talking heads, he would and/or should completely rebuild the defense that didn't need rebuilding.

Not sure about saying he had little choice but to promote BA. I suppose it wasn't a terrible hire at the time, so I'll grant him that. My main issue is how long they kept him. I thought he should have been fired after 2008, despite the SB win.

The BIG bust is Larry Zierlein, who was terrible from the beginning and stayed 3 years. That was Tomlin's hire all the way, and he took too long to fire him. And with our OL talent falling apart as well and transitions all over, we could have really used a good coach. Kugler is definitely an improvement, although I think the praise for him is a little overboard at times.

I agree that all his hires since his original hires have been great. Kugler's a step up, Lake's a huge step up and we haven't seen all he has yet, Haley hasn't seen the field yet but looks like a big step up on paper. Considering his biggest failures were early on, and he won a Super Bowl in his second year, I'll forgive him :-D[/quote:a82traxt]

I don't think that happens too often For whatever reason, Tomlin was partial to BA, he'd still be here if Rooney's didn't force his hand. And you would know this better then I would, but I don't think we were as bad in redzone efficiency and overall offensive rank in previous years as we were last season under BA? Throw in 2 SB appearances, one of which was a victory and I can see why Tomlin kept him around as long as he did.[/quote:a82traxt]
Yeah, they would have taken crap from the media since we'd just come off a SB win, but I still woulda done it. We had one of the greatest defenses of all time that year, and they carried us. Every big play we had in the playoffs came from either a source behind the offense (two clutch INT returns which really is what did it, a punt return), or an offensive score that was completely improvised. Pretty much none of the plays on the final winning drive went was scripted. The lone exception being the dropped TD by Holmes. Arians had just already proven himself such a terrible playcaller... you could tell things were only going to get worse, not better.