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Dobbs and Mason: Futures so bright...

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Sep 2, 2018.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    gotta wear shades. Couldn't be happier with the choice the Steelers made and not just because it's an upgrade at backup but because they now have two potential starters to succeed Ben. I used to think that finding Bens successor would take years as it did after Bradshaw but I like what Dobbs and Mason bring.

    Mason as everyone knows, was drafted to be a starter but so was Dobbs, IMO. They didn't spend a 4th rd pick on a QB to be a backup when they already had a backup in Landry, starting ability is exactly what he showed me this preseason. What I saw out there was flashes of Deshaun Watson with his playmaking abilities. He also throws a nice deep ball. I'm sure the Steelers feel the same way and probably played a pivotal role in keeping him over Landry.

    He has progressed at a nice pace, much further along than Landry was in his second preseason. With RPO's becoming more and more prevalent in the NFL, he's the perfect fit. Ben is playing at least 2 more seasons, Dobbs has plenty of time to continue to improve his game. He didn't shrink from the challenge either, the Steelers basically said, here are the snaps, go win the job and that's exactly what he did. He's a guy that rises to the occasion, he did it in college too.

    Then there is Mason, who also looked very good out there Thursday night. This is a guy I think will progress even faster than Dobbs.

    In the end, I predict one of these guys will be leading this franchise and the other will fetch a high drat pick ala Jimmy G. Win win.

    Future is bright indeed.

    Here's a good read on Dobbs. Just think, all his focus is on football now.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles...tist-qb-who-could-be-the-next-nfl-draft-steal
     
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  2. AskQuestionsLater

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    No doubt Blast. With you on that. :hi:



    As I have said prior, I do wish Landry Jones all the best in his future endeavors. He was not as bad as some made him out to be and had assisted in playing a major role for our push during the 2015 season.



    Within that same context however, Landry also was not going to get any better going on the age of 30. Dobbs provides so much more and Rudolph's development has me excited and hopeful that everything will be okay for the Steelers. Both showcased growth during this preseason but Dobbs looked completely different this time around.



    Now, does he still have some shortcomings to work on? Of course. That can be said for any young quarterback ever though. Like the young quarterbacks who showcase potential thougu, Dobbs will progress as time goes by and will be better than he is now.



    Question remains as to how much better. We shall soon see.
     
  3. Diamond

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    All this hype for two rooks who have never played in a single regular season game yet, I need to see them win some games before I say they are the second coming....
     
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  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Hence the word potential. You also didn't believe the Steelers would keep Dobbs over Landry.
     
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  5. Diamond

    Diamond Well-Known Member

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    I sure had a lot of company in that belief including all of the media.....
     
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  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Just means a lot of people were wrong and missed the things people like Mac, AQL and myself saw and argued for.
     
  7. Diamond

    Diamond Well-Known Member

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    You didn't see anything you all just speculated like everyone else, so if these two green tomatoes dont work out dont hesitate to admit you were wrong;)
     
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  8. steel machine

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    Tad bit scary not having a proven back-up. Should Ben go down early in season I'm guessing it will be a very ugly season.
     
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  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I do admit when I'm wrong, unlike you, who still hasn't.

    If you noticed, I haven't gone around rubbing anything in anyones face either, until you came in and poo-pooed on my thread because you're butt hurt and can't admit you were wrong.

    And yeah, some of us did see something in Dobbs, whether you like it or not. Kids got talent.
     
  10. Diamond

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    I'll say dobbs has talent when he or mason starts a real game when the DC game plans for their debut with starters instead of 2 3s and 4s, till then they havent proved anything to me.....
     
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  11. SteelerGlenn

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    He also said Ben wouldn’t play in the 3rd preseason game and might not play against the Browns.
     
  12. Diamond

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    Which wasnt unreasonable considering he was in concussion protocal at the time, and not all of your own predictions have been spot on either so dont get all nit picky on me....
     
  13. thesteeldeal

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    Sorry but in 6 years neither has Jones unless you want to count 3 wins against a team(s) that had the engines running in their cars. I'd say that level of competition was on par with 2,3'and 4s trying their hardest to make a team....trust me DCs aren't staying up late at night to devise a plan to stop LJ...
     
  14. steelersrule6

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    BF never admits when he's wrong, we all have to eat crow sometimes.
     
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  15. thesteeldeal

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    Proven? Not exactly....what is also being lost on those saying Dobbs hasn't proved anything and it was against 3 rd and 4th stringers is that his teammates consisted of the same caliber of players. It wasn't our starters against their scrubs.
     
  16. steelersrule6

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    Hopefully neither Dobbs or Rudolph take any meaningful snaps in the next 3-4 years :thumbs_up:.
     
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  17. WinTheNorth

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    I interpret it as a calculated risk by the FO. Aren't the two of them combined costing the team less than LJ alone? I agree it's a risk but the FO is looking at the whole board... i think it's wrong to consider the decision in a vacuum.
     
  18. fansince40s

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    I hope the Steelers are not going down the same path as the Pirates, saving money. I think they are taking a big chance having two back up QBs with a total of one year regular game experience to back up Ben. When the big boys are on the field it's a whole different game. Jones proved he can play with the big boys I just hope Dobbs can. If Ben goes down neither back up has proven anything as far as playing in games that count.
     
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  19. LoneGranger

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    I'll bet when you were a kid you said things like: "Well, Johnny did it." Seriously! You actually believe the media has some clue of about players on any team. Listen to them. Read them. They always get things wrong about what is happening with the Steelers. Maybe, maybe one or two local guys have knowledge but not the national media. Don't align yourself with them. You will be even wrong than you are on your own. :thumbs_up:
     
  20. turtle

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    I can't count the number of times a crappy back up QB played well against our Steelers. Ryan effing Mallet for crimony sakes. I think we are in a good spot. I was fine with Landry just as I'm as fine with Dobbs. Figured MR would be the #3 all along, that's a no brainer. It's just a matter of what you prefer....experience or potential? I'm glad they went with the potential in this instance.

    The back ups are going to be behind a solid o-lne and can turn around and hand off to Bell just as easily as anyone. And we're loaded at WR. You can't give two young QBs a better circumstance.
     
  21. D0bre Shunka

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    Surprised but not shocked that they went with youth over experience. I think they're right, it's time. Still, as bad as Jones is, it's still shaky not having his experience backing up Ben.

    Re: all the in fighting of who knew what, nothing is set in stone, the coaches don't even know during exhibitions that's why they have them. Dobbs and Mason apparently showed the coaches, and us, enough to take the chance, that's it.
     
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  22. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Don't ever call me a liar again, don't appreciate it. I admit it when I know I'm wrong, like after the Jags playoff loss. Had a long back and forth with Scribe, I came on the board after the game and said I was wrong and gave him credit for being right. So don't go making **** up about me. I think people who can't admit when they are wrong and who can't give credit for that matter, are small weak and pathetic.
     
  23. MadtownDruankard

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    It's an interesting move to say the least. We chose to go with potential vs the safe choice with Jones. Not what I expected at all. Not sure it was the right move or not. How many more minutes before he signs with the Patriots? He knows our offense as good as anyone...if the Patriots don't sign him someone in our division is going to sign him.

    Kind of funny that people are already calling Mason and Dobbs starting QB's. in fact it's ridiculously funny. Maybe they will be great someday but anointing a rookie QB and a preseason star future starters in the NFL is just nuts. Fact of the matter is, if Ben goes down for the season , and we need to start either of these guys - our season is over - Period.

    If Ben stays healthy he easily has 2-3 seasons left in him. By then both of these guys will be FA's or close to it and gone.
     
  24. Rush2seven

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    Well if Landry doesn’t sign elsewhere and Ben goes down, he’ll be resigned before the game is over.
     
  25. MadtownDruankard

    MadtownDruankard Well-Known Member

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    Hilarious thing is if we end up needing either of these guys for any length of time our season is over.
     
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