Tomlin's seat is getting warm

You think maybe not having a suitable qb in place may have something to do with that?? if you're a new coach with no q.b. you're pretty much guaranteed losing or mediocre seasons til u get one. Why not wait until a better opportunity arises??

 

They have people for that.

 

If it was then I missed it. I did search for an answer, but couldn't find one.

There are tons of options this offseason for a QB. Good draft class and plenty of possibilities through trade and FA. If anything it would be a great opportunity to start fresh and not with someone else's guy.

HC is the ultimate goal of most coaches and I can't imagine turning down the chance, especially when you're leaping right over a coordinator spot to the position. Plus he's been an HC before, so it's not like needs to progress slowly and take an OC spot first.

 

Great minds

Time will tell. Bookmark these threads until 2019 so we can quickly bump (or delete) them.

 

Those would be called cheerleaders and the Steelers don't have them. They have....Steely McBeam.

 

Unless the team is owned by Mike Brown

 

There's a million Tomlin threads people can just add to those..its the same person getting talked about. The topic never stays on topic anyway .

I pray that Tomlin won't be Steelers related for much longer.

 

I can't believe you left out *********!

 

Yeah he went 22-26 with Matt Hasselbeck and Jake Locker as his starting QBs and was fired after 3 seasons but thanks for making my point. He would have had to draft a rookie q.b., because contrary to your statement theres only two veteran qbs worth seriously looking at and half the teams that pick b4 them (15th?) in the upcoming draft need a q.b desperately. The cap room wouldn't have been there to get Cousins or Smith and most organizations don't have the patience that only a select few have to see if a rookie q.b will develop under a head coach who chose to draft him and he's not a q.b coach soooooo....

 

Not warm at all imo. There are things ownership should talk to him about and see what his plan is to correct those issues, but none of it is job threatening.

Butler's should be warm though. When the HC takes over mid season that shows you he isn't confident things are progressing his way. Is Tomlin's way better though, that is the question. We don't have enough info to know. Like others stated and maybe I didn't pay attention, but I didn't see Tomlin on his headset a lot when the defense was on the field. Then again you are limited to TV coverage.

 

In his ten years here he's taken us to two Super Bowls, won one and had us in the playoffs seven times now. That's pretty dang good no matter how you slice it.

No, Tomlin has nothing to worry about right now as far as being fired as head coach of the Steelers. As others have said I'm sure he's getting an earful about discipline and his staff but that's about it.
He's earned the right to have a chance to attempt to right the ship and see what went wrong, who's fault it is and make the necessary moves.

Obviously.

 

Sorry Turtle...I think and hope you're wrong his seat should definitely be at the least toasty...If he can't figure out a way to get the team more disciplined and focused ,his job should definitely be threatened. We're not gonna get over the hump without the discipline that is needed both on and off the field. There's tons of room for growth and improvement in those areas.

If Tomlin did indeed take over for Butler,where are his results,they got worse. If Butler can't do the job,he shouldn't still have one. My fear is another disappointing season by the defense and we already have our scapegoat still in place....

 

But if the new HC wins a Super Bowl, won't it be the team Tomlin built?

 

I would definitely hope focus and discipline is one of the major areas discussed b/t MT and the Rooneys. I agree it needs improved, even if Cam says it was not a problem. Other players mentioned it and Cam will always toe the company line when it comes to PR. I still don't think these issues are worthy of a firing. If the same stuff happens again next year, then I will change my mind.

I agree with your second paragraph in that Butler needs to go if MT feels the need to take over. If Butlers game planning or play calling is becoming an issue that should be ironed out during the prep each week. We are going on very little info though. All I've seen is a comment by Bouchette (I think) that said MT inserted himself more heavily into the defensive game planning and play calling. When did this occur? I have no idea. And did MT make sweeping changes or minor tweaks?

 

That's what I"m saying. No one knows the MT/Butler cut off line in regards to game planning/play calling. But the defense did regress at the end of the year. Shazier injury and MT involvement combined to make things worse? I don't know.

I thought Bouchette tweeted something about MT being more involved...

 

Unless Tomlin elects not to reign in his players, his "seat" is far more cold than a winter Vancouver morning.

 

honestly don't know why I threw in the "takes over midseason" part of my other post , now that I re-read it. I have no idea when that all came about.

 

All the more reason that Tomlin needs to let his coordinators coordinate and simply focus on key areas of the head coaching position such as time management.


Coaches who elect to do both ultimately set themselves up for failure.

 

Careful you will be giving hope to a lot of posters here

 

.... This is true.

 

Why would Tomlin just interject himself into the equation? Pretty sure he wouldn't unless he didn't think Butler was doing a good job. If that's the case why is Butler still here? .......and to answer your question about Butler sticking around........he doesn't know it yet

 

Maybe you hit on something....the big plays. Maybe Tomlin got fed up with the bend but don't bread D,and after the loss of Shazier thought they had to take more chances on defense and started selling out more on the pass rush similar to what Dupree was talking about after the Cleveland (sack record) game. That would explain some of the run fit issues and opposing QBs running all over us...Tomlin maybe figured a gambling defense would be able to create more TOs and sacks and at the same time putting the offense on the field,which had clearly became our strength,more frequently. It kinda makes sense that he realized it was the best chance they had at beating NE(aggressive)....problem is they didn't adjust to Jacksonville first.