Mitchell’s Late Hit/Roughing Call on A. Smith

I think our best pass defense is a little misleading. We have played Kizer, Case Kennum, Glennon, Flacco, Bortles, and Alex Smith.
Smith is the best QB of that bunch and he is a borderline top 10 QB.
I know we can only play who is on the schedule but i wanna see how good this Pass Defense is against Stafford, Brady, Mariota, and Watson.
Hopefully the days of our pass defense being complete garbage is over but only time will tell when we play the good QB's.

 

No suspension or fine. It’s a ruff sport and he didn’t hit him hard enough to knock the dirt off his shoe. Smith was mad because they were getting beat. This stuff is getting stupid, Ben has been rolled up on several time this year and didn’t even get a flag.

 

Intentionally rolled up on with not mitigating factors.

 

Live by the sword, die by the sword. A first time offender would have gotten a pass on that. The exact same explanation from a "clean" player would have passed the smell test and no one would be talking about it.

But since this is Mitchell, with his history of playing on the edge and his constant trash talking, it becomes an issue.

A fine is warranted just because of his history. A 1-game suspension shouldn't surprise anyone.

 

SE I disagree, while we are getting better and we are getting more and more talent on that side of the ball. Just under 4 per rush still isn't good and I don't care if it is one play or 10 plays we give up the big one we still give it up. They don't give back that back, it still counts and yeah I get the 90 yarder at the end of the game was when it was out of reach. We are ranked 24th for a reason and I am hoping to see us improve there.

 

Ok so saying our run D is bad is "rooted in we suck and world ending" cause I do not believe I was on that track. I think i was pointing out how bad our run D is IMO, which by the way this is what you said in another post:

So which is it, first you say this now your just saying we are not that bad we are only bad on one play?

Now if your statement in this post was not directed at me no problem but I by no means was going there. I am just chatting about what I think is a part of our team that is bad. And since it is ranked 24th while our D as a whole is ranked #1 that should tell ya something, cause usually when you are ranked that low vs either pass or run I don't think you are going to be ranked so high overall. jmo

I agree with your assessment on Bud and Shazier....especially Bud, I also feel Mitchell & Davis aren't in place enough for back up(which by the way would be a big gain anyways). Gap responsibility and all that stuff is to deep for me but no matter how you look at it, what ever the problem is...it is a problem.

 

Let me point out that cause I don't like him don't mean I don't root for him, felt the same way about VW and before he went down Sunday he was lighting it up. Now my problem with Mitchell's play is he is slow, another thing that drives me up a wall is how when he makes a play or big hit no matter where on the field he is pretty cocky and to the point of taunting. I am not calling for his head I am just pointing out how he is the weak link right now.

Again being #1 is just a stat and stats can be misleading. For example not hard to gain stats when a QB only throw 14 times vs ya cause the run was working for them and our QB was playing for them as well. I am not trying to tear anything down, you should know me by now I try to be positive as one can be. I am just talking about Mitchell's abilities and judging from the comments from the past there were a ton of people that felt the same way as I do about him...

 

I agree with you and your right just looking at averages don't tell the story just like picking out one game that we won by the way don't tell the whole story. Great job with the break down that was a lot of work but I am sure if you pulled up the Bears or Jag games the splits would be much different. IMO we have a problem vs the run, I don't care what the numbers say or what our rank is I believe what I see. It is a very fixable problem and I am not saying the world is coming to an end, I am just saying we have a problem......much like you did before I posted. You kind of changed your stance a bit since my post not sure why.

 

Now this I can agree with.......

 

Whining about the hits Big Ben takes and then saying this one was OK "because" or wasn't MMs fault is hypocritical.

But the way Alex Smith is crying about it makes me think he needs to start wearing tampons. It's not like someone intentionally chopped him in the face and he had to play the rest of the game with a broken nose. It's not like someone suplexed him headfirst into the ground. ( Bradshaw only missed one game - amazing )
It's not like a team was given free rein to do whatever they wanted and try to a QB out of the game like the Saints did to Brett Favre.

You remember what Favre said about it? "Yeah they were trying to take me out. That's football. If they wanted me to go to court and testify against them they would be calling the wrong guy."

The hit was late, got a flag per the rules and Smith suffered no injury whatsoever. That should have been the end of it.

 

It's not whining. It's called kettle calling the pot black...

We've seen Ben and other so-called big QB's not get calls on obvious cheap shots, to be sitting here when Mitchell actually gets a penalty called on him for one that is marginal as to intent and talking about fines and suspensions is laughable!

 

"talking about fines and suspensions is laughable!"

I agree.

 

No no no you guys, rankings and stats are 2 different things.....lol

 

This point has been brought up more than once, but I'll make it again. Look at our opponents so far. We have played some of the worst offenses in the league. Kizer, Case Kennum, Glennon, Flacco, Bortles, and Alex Smith. That's the qB's we've faced. So we are #1 in pass defense. Given the QB's and WR's we've faced... We should be in the top 5. Not going to get overly excited about slowing down those QB's. Granted I will admit our pass defense looks better than last season... IMO because of the improved pass rush.

The run defense on the other hand is bad. Again consider the offenses we played. We knew the only shot those offenses had at scoring points was on ground, yet they still run the ball with success. The jags and Bears have 1 dimensional offenses and the ran on us like we were a HS team. We knew the run was coming and couldn't' stop it. 3 weeks in a row we could not stop the run. The chiefs game for now looks like the exception not the norm. The argument that if we take away the big runs we were good is ridiculous. If you eliminate the longest runs you need to eliminate the losses. If you cherry pick 1 or 2 games or cherry pick stats you are not getting an accurate picture. If you ever took a statistics class you'd understand this.

 

Only stats and rankings that matter are W's vs L's... Keep improving in the W column and all is peachy.

 

Mitchell got fined 57K, 48K was for a helmet to Helmet hit, the fine for hitting smith low was 9K, people jumped to conclusions that he was fined 48K for a low hit when that isnt what the league said....

 

I get the points you are making, I'm saying your points are wrong. The logic you use to make your points is flawed. 2+2-1 does not equal 5 .