BENGALS TO SIGN STEELERS WR

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_ ... s-receiver

 

thats the only link i could find but i Live in Cincy i heard on the radio that they are going to sign him

 

I think Limas was getting over the mental part of the game, but then he got injured in training camp and that was the last straw. Seemed that he had good ability to get open but could never catch the ball when it mattered.

 

Also misleading since Sweed isn't currently a Steeler.

 

X Steeler WR....As I and others have stated Sweed has all the tools he was not a good fit for the BA system.....

I think of it similar to a good BBall player who can make shots when they get hot and they fold if the ball in not going in the basket.....BA set him up to fail IMO a guy like Sweed needs to be fed dunks and layups and after that the Jump hook starts going and then the 15 footer follwed by 3 pointers....

For the most part BA simply sent him deep and he got open ,but failed to make the play,,,he never had a GL package where he could feature his skills....Peeps can dead horse me all they want ,but BA had a lot to do with not only breaking his confidence he did nothing from what I can see to help it grow...

IMO Sweed will turn out to be a solid WR in the NFL.....I wished we had Haley seasons ago,BA hurt or stunted lots of players with his lack of Football knowledge....

Players I feel he has hurt are Sweed,Summers,Miller,Mendenhall,Logan,Big Ben,Dixon,Ward,Dwyer and Redman to name a few.....As stated don't be surprised to see these guys do a lot better in the future for the most part....

 

Yeah change the title for crying outloud...

 

man I was hoping you were talking about wallace

 

Sorry but you cant blame arains for sweed. Arains didnt go out there and sgop his hands from catching the ball. More then anything ben lost confidence in him and i would have as well.

 

Sweed was definitely Arians fault.....Arians publicly said to after a game that he "forgot about Sweed"

rookie year....Ward, Holmes and Wallace....with Arians forgetting him in favor of the new speedster...then inujry and out for the year


Sweed should be brought back for one more round...with Arians out of the building...Ben cant throw to Sweed when Sweed is never in the game.


HACK

 

I would take wallace over sweed all day every day. It was the right decision. Sweed could do everything but catch the football. I liked sweed and i agree he should get another shot but it was him dropping touchdowns not arains. If we would have lost the afc championship due to his drop i bet you would be singing a different tune right now. Nobody had any confidence in him anymore and rightfully so. He was a head case his problem was between his ears and sometimes there is nothing you can do to fix it.

 

Sweed needed a different kind of guidance coming into the league and he didn't get it from BA. I still believe Sweed could have had a great career here and agree with those that think BA killed him with the Steelers. Only time will tell though!

 

Kinda have to agree here. Arians certainly didn't help Sweed in any way, that much is for sure.

 

Yep.

Dragging up the "it's BA's fault" seems to ignore the presence of WR coaches, Head Coaches, personnel management and so on. There were many reasons for Sweed not being the success he probably should have been. Lumping it into one simplistic explanation doesn't really help.

 

The steelers lost the 95 super bowl because of arains and were horrible before 69 because of him as well. It rains and snows because of himself n. Korea is testing nukes because of him amd im sure the world ending will be his fualt as well. I cant believe somebody actually complained that arians went with wallace over sweed. If sweed went out there and had great practices and games he would have seen the field more. If you were a qb and a player dropped two tds one of which we lost because of and almost lost the afcc game because of how much confidence would you have in him. Sweed is to be blamed there are no excuses for being wide open and dropping tds or any catches for that matter amd sweed did it all the time. Arians gave sweed his shot he entered the season in the third spot and wallace took it from him.

 

It was Nate Washington in his rookie year. Wallace wasn't drafted until the next year. Playing Mike Wallace over a very talented 2nd round pick that just needs to see the field is one thing. Playing Nate Washington (Sweed couldn't catch???) over him is another.

Tomlin Era, you are right about everything you said, but people with opinions like mine and Hack's think the reason he didn't see the field enough in the first place can mostly be put on BA, with Tomlin's support.

 

Lets see he couldnt learn the offense when he showed up and was dropping balls in practice. I remeber because i loved the pick and kept a close eye on him. He was lost in practice but everybody wanted him in the game. If you are confused at practice you are going to be totally lost come game time. So yes i would take washington who knew what routes to run amd the names of the plays over a kid that has potential.

 

Ironically, you have just described the Bungles Jerome Simpson to a T.
The guy who is now sitting in the Jailhouse right up the road from PBS. He was only slapped with a 16 day sentence after being popped with 8 1/2 lbs of Northern California chronic with paraphanalia, scales and baggies. But don't worry the lousy legal system is fair and Good ole Rog just might suspend him for 6 or more games and therefore they are probably banking on Sweed to fill his roll while he is vacationing off in Jamaica.

 

Yes...thats what I was saying...just not clearly...first it was his rookie year....then it was Ward, Holmes and Wallace...then injury


HACK

 

Im still confused here wallace was clearly the better wide out wallace getting the nod over him was the right call. Why would they put him on the field when he had no business being on the field. His career highlight is a block(after he dropped a td)

 

Thats is exactly the point....Wallace as a rookie came in and BA fell in love....No one is saying Sweed should have played more than Wallace....but there was no 4th WR in BA's offense...there was no situational football...or rotation....Ward, Holmes, and Wallace....caught every pass to a WR that year....Sweed, McDonald, Logan, and Grisham had 3 catches between them as the #4 WR....Sweed should have been the REDZONE target if nothing else...but there was no situational football being used....McDonald was the Steelers prize FA that year...and caught ZERO passes...and that had nothing to do with drops...If I remember right he was only targeted one time...and he caught it...but the pass was out of bounds.

 

You guys that argue blaming BA is too simplistic and easy are right, to an extent. No, BA did not make him drop balls or be confused or anything else that has been said, however, BA did have a responsibility to help foster this kid's (and that is exactly what he is) confidence and give him an opportunity to grow. I think the legend of Seed's drops were as much a product of fans as anything. The argument about his drops have been beat to death over the last couple of years so I wont continue it but I do give it some comparison to the Mendy fumbles too much crowd. Sweed's career in Pit reminds me of a dog that gets beat by his owner. I'm not saying that Sweed was a "for sure thing" or that he wouldn't have ended up in the same position he is now. I don't think anyone on here is saying that but the same people that scoff at someone like me being too simplistic about BA's responsibility are some of the same people that got on BA for being too close with Ben. When that argument is made I don't see mention of any of the other coaches or their roles in Ben's behavior. You can't have your cake and eat it too in this type of argument. Having said that, yes, I am very simplistic I put blame where I see it.

 

You make some very good points there, Hack. The limitations of BA's playcalling could well be a factor in Sweed not getting on the field enough to establish himself. I don't think that's the only reason, and I don't think it was part of some kind of devilish plot that BA had to destroy Sweed's career - but his limited use of rotating receivers, when the corps was at a level he could have, is certainly one.

I had actually forgotten about McDonald - I remember getting quite frustrated that we weren't seeing the depth of the receiving corps that season. He was still a bit of a bizarre pick up - at a time when we were after a big receiver (like Sweed) or a speedster (like Wallace), we invested in a verteran who was small and not the fastest.

 

Sweed was like a cow that give good milk(get wide open on the field) and just when you are about to enjoy the milk kick the pail over(drop the pass and sure touchdown).Disappointing.