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Explanation of Bad NFL Rule is Sickening

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by BigBensBigBong, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. BigBensBigBong

    BigBensBigBong Well-Known Member

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  2. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah and to think in the 2005 playoffs, when Troy P, intercepted the ball, the two barrel rolls on the ground, got up and hit the ball with his knee, and they called it an incomplete pass.

    But at least the NFL admitted it's mistake it that one.

    Might be a rule change next year on what happened yesterday.
     
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  3. Lizard72

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    The only way that works is if they say he never had possession, which is asinine. He grabbed the ball and brought it into his body and took 3-4 steps.

    he had it pinned to his body so it's allowed to move a little, before it was punched out after his knee hit....
     
  4. Sojourner

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    As asinine as the call reversal was the attempted "explanations" after the fact just serve as examples of how absurd the NFL can be.
     
  5. strummerfan

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    At this point I couldn’t care less. It was a minor hurdle to overcome at the time. We won!
     
  6. Lizard72

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    It all hinges on a time aspect....
    Cost the shut-out...

    LMAO
     
  7. BigBensBigBong

    BigBensBigBong Well-Known Member

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    This time. But what if it happens again, changes the outcome of the game, and that loss is the difference between playoffs or no playoffs?

    The easy fix is one rule for being down. He was down, period.
     
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  8. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    What if? What if? What if?you can live in that fantasyland, but I’ll keep my feet firmly planted in reality.
     
  9. bigbenhotness

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    Steelers basically have to do good enough to not rely on a bad call
     
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  10. CanadianSteel

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    I know what you're saying, we won and the call didn't affect the outcome, but it's not 'living in a fantasyland'. The call was terrible and it's a rule or interpretation of a rule, that needs to be changed. Because if it's not, it will eventually affect the outcome of a game.
     
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  11. strummerfan

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    The call was awful, but it’s ancient history at this point. It had no affect on the outcome of the game.Nothing can be done about it until the offseason. The game has been played longer than any of us have been alive and pretty sure that’s the first time that call has ever been made. So I would be shocked if it happens again anytime in the near future .Everything else is just noise, hence the what if comments. But this could have happened, or this, or this, or in some far away universe it might cost us a playoff spot. It’s bs and tired.

    Haley shouldn’t have called a pass there because Ben might have thrown an interception and it might have been returned for a touchdown and it might have cost us the game. Two months down the road it might cost us playoff seeding.
     
  12. Rush2seven

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    I think the explanation and interpretation is crap. He had three steps, what if he had 10? At what point is it a catch?
     
  13. thorn058

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    Actually something can be done and most likely will be done and that is the league will work with its officiating crew to be more uniform in what constitutes a catch, possession and so on.

    That is my only beef with the call is that they try to stay consistent.
     
  14. thorn058

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    The interesting discussion to have with the refs would be how do you rule it if Brown doesn't cough it up into the air but rather to the ground. Catch and down by contact, incomplete pass, catch and fumble? Do they challenge it and is there enough to overturn?
     
  15. Coastal Steeler

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    BullSh*t The damn refs need to call what it is. Ball don't have to hit the ground. When aB's knee hit and a defender had a hand on hi. Play is dead Runner/pass catcher down.Refs eat CHIT and bark at the moon
     
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  16. SteelinOhio

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    So it was an interception instead of him being down because of "some stuff and some things." Pereira sounds like he's making it up as he goes.
     
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  17. BigBensBigBong

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    I hope so. Except for the "emaculate reception", it seems to me over the years when there is a questionable referee decision based on the rule book, we come out on the wrong end of the deal.
     
  18. thorn058

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    In today's Asked and Answered Labs had an interesting take on it basically saying the refs were trying to keep it close. Closest I've ever heard to a person saying conspiracy
     
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  19. bigbenhotness

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    well the NFL is rigged in the sense they like to call things to make games closer. All about that $$
     
  20. Mr F

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    If the games were rigged to keep them close, there would almost always be more penalties on the team which is leading. I doubt that's the case.

    The NFL makes billions without having to rig the games. If it ever came out that there was any credible evidence games were fixed in any way they'd lose a HUGE portion of fans who are interested mainly for the gambling aspect. Why on earth would they risk that?

    It would be like Vegas cheating on the games. They don't have to!
     
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  21. soulkitchen

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    Although sometimes they do:

    11/16/2008

    PIT: 11
    SND: 10

    Line PIT -4 1/2 (around 65-70% bet on PIT).

    What happened:

    1. Steelers called for 13 penalties, SND called for 2 penalties.
    2. Steelers driving for the win with score 10 to 8 SND. PIT positioning for FG with late running plays. Run breaks loose and we score a TD. Wait flag, holding. I was there and this flag came clearly after the runner entered the end zone (line safe).
    3. PIT kicks FG (line safe).
    4. SND tries desperate play at end with a lateral. Troy gets the ball on a legal lateral that even never touched the ground. Troy with TD (line blown).
    5. Ref under review comes back.....after review the play stands TD PIT (line still blown).
    6. Game over, players leave field. I leave stadium.
    7. Make it to parking lot and the score is back to 11-10 after an unprecedented, neither before or since second review (line finally safe). This review was from the box and not a referee review on the field.
    8. Extra: Network switched to 60 minutes before all of the shenanigans started.
    9. Extra, Extra: NFL admits later the TD should have stood by rule.
    10. Extra, Extra, Extra: Vegas made +30 million on the swing.

    Also, try to find the true scenario spelled out on the internet and it will take some digging. This was buried as fast as possible. Even I, who was there, questions what I saw sometimes, but I know what I saw.
     
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  22. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    I had completely forgotten about that game, @soulkitchen@soulkitchen .

    Crazy **** whichever way you look at it.
     
  23. Mr F

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    Ignoring the fact that the 30 million figure is laughable, one game is hardly empirical evidence of anything.
     
  24. AskQuestionsLater

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    Great game in spite of the circumstances.
     

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