Cajun's 4 rd mock

I don't want Hightower or adams. I want Luke or decastro but realistically they will be gone but if they slip and anything is possible either one of these guys is the pick.

Rd 1) Peter Konz-- center-- He's the next best interior OL and being a C is a plus since pouncey is injured alot. He'll play OG- good luck foster/legs
1a) safety Mark Barron and OT Jonathan Martin might test this if they're available, especially Mark.

Rd 2) Alameda Ta'amu--NT-- He's moving up the draft boards unfortuneatly, hope he's still here. More productive than Poe.
2a) Mychal Kendricks ILB--- In case alameda is gone Kendricks is my next choice/hope he's not gone too.

Rd 3) Robert Turbin--RB-- I've been against a RB anywhere in the top 4/5 rds but after alot of thought we really can't pass on Turbin if he's here and I believe he will be here. Mendy has been a disappointment overall and his future with us is in question. We have some nice udfa RBs with potential but we really need a solid RB threat to complement our passing game.

Rd 4) Josh Chapman--NT-- He's a better talent than 4th rd but he's slipping due to his knee injury keeping him from the combine and workouts. Even if we do draft Alameda this is still my pick. Hood and McLendon are NOT NTs , they are stop gaps and we MUST rebuild our interior DL NOW.
4a) Zebrie Sanders--OT-- We need OT help, Gilbert is unproven @ LT and Colon has been injured last 2 yrs. I'd like to have an OT earlier but I just don't see one I like in the earlier rds.

If Turbin is gone in Rd 3 just move up Chapman to 3rd rd and keep Sanders @ 4th rd.
If we don't get both Ta'amu and chapman I can see us drafting Hebron ( NT ) in rds 5 or 6 and if we don't get Turbin in rd 3 I see us going after either Isiah Peed or vick Ballard RBs in rd 6 or Jonas Gray RB rd 7.

Cajun-

 

I'd swap Turbin and Chapman's rounds. I think Chapman is a 3rd rounder, and Turbin a 4th-5th.

 

I really wanted Bernard Pierce (RB) in the 3rd but looking at things I feel he may be gone. So I placed turbin in his place but looking at it you may very well be right and if Pierce is gone we should switch the chapman/turbin picks.

Cajun-

 

Two nose tackles in the first 4 rounds? I agree McLendon is not who we should have starting, but he's a capable backup. I don't see any justification for two nose tackles, and I'm a guy who still thinks it's a vital position.

No matter what round you're in, if Ta'amu and Chapman are both on the board, and you're going to pick one of them, make it Chapman and move on to another position.

 

I'm not entering the draft trying to get 2 NTs. I'm trying to match BPA with our needs.

NT is a huge need, Hoke is gone, Hampton is possibly out 1st part of the season and very possible this is his final season. McLendon is better @ NT than hood but that doesn't make him a quality NT. This year should be evidence enough our DL and its lack of pressure and inability to just hold its own is our Biggest issue on defense.

Ta'amu is better than Chapman and more NFL NT ready than chapman.

A couple years back we took Two LBers in the 1st Two rds. That has worked out pretty well. Last year we took Two DBs (brown & allen) in the 1st four rds. Don't handcuff your next selection by a previous selection.

Cajun-

 

lol wow, when I posted before I hadn't even realized you had 2 NT's.

No, I wouldn't take Chapman if we already got Ta'Amu. Your argument that we took Timmons and Woodley the same year is not valid because they play different positions, and even if they didn't, we start 2 players at each of their positions. They've said Cortez could potentially be a safety... and in this passing league you need 3 starting caliber CB's.

You don't need 2 nose tackles.

 

Well, yes you do, a starter and a back-up. I'm feeleing more and more Ta'amu ill be gone so I added a LBer. I also fear Chapman may be gone so I added an OT.

What if both are there at the proposed spots and we do draft them? Keisel is aging, Hood is disappointing, Heyward needs to step in and be the starter we need. McLendon is barely a back-up. When Hoke came in for Hampton did we loose production?

What happens next year when Hampton and Hoke are gone for good? Keisel at the end of his career? We better get players now to groom and develop.

Cajun-

 

So would you take two QBs in the first two rounds if the guys are both BPA? I mean, as to not handcuff your selection?

Only one nose tackle plays at a time, if he's playing at all. You have 4 linebackers on the field and 2-3 starting cornerbacks. There is absolutely no reason that Timmons and Woodley wouldn't start alongside each other someday (if they both worked out as players), as they did. There's no reason Brown and Allen won't both start together someday (if they both work out as players), or at least both be in the top 3. One doesn't prevent the other from seeing the field the way two NTs do.

By drafting a NT in the 2nd and another in the 4th, you are guarenteeing that either your 4th rounder renders your 2nd rounder obsolete, or vice versa. NTs work one at a time, not in tandem. Except for like 3 plays a game in goal line situations. You'd essentially be saying, "this pick will not be used on a starter" to one of those picks. In the 4th round, I'm still looking for eventual starters. I hope the Steelers are too.

Also, I don't think backup NT is a need. McLendon has proven to be a good backup and I think he has room to grow. It doesn't hurt that he's besties with Hoke and learning everything he can from him. We need a starter for the future, and that's all in my opinion.

As for Chapman and Ta'amu, that's just a matter of opinion. But I hope we aren't already looking for backups for filled positions by round 4.

 

Nice players ,but I agree with the point we don't need 2 NT''S.....If one can play multiple spots on the DL then that changes everything.....

Or if we are going to a 4 or 5 man power front with no OLB'S on the line...Not saying it wouldn't work we just need better cover LB'S and DB'S.....With the new quick strike type of O'S running the spread a 4 or 5 man front with huge guys might just be the ticket....We use a big front in HS a lot against the spread.....

Really a different approach collapse the pocket and cover the WR'S ,go for Quality sacks instead of more sacks.....The Premise is hope the fear of getting trucked by a bull rush makes the QB get it out just a little sooner than he wanted and you have the speed in coverage to jump the route or at least start the tip drill.....

Sorry ,but we are not close to such a D IMO.....As stated if so it would be a grand ideal IMO ...