Bell a no show at camp and has not signed tender

That's too much for a running back.

Sorry, the temptation was too great.

 

Actually, there was a story yesterday where some "executive" or whatever said they'd pass on giving Bell a long term blockbuster of a deal.I want him here. Period. IF Ben does decide to walk away Bell would become even more invaluable in taking the pressure off a young qb. The dude has to be accounted for on every single play whether he's in the backfield or whether he's not.

 

Bells expectations for a big money deal far exceeds the market value for a running back as this pay scale chart indicates, I dont think this team is going to give him 15 mill a year when the market value average right now is between 5 and 6 mill a year with only one back making 7 mill and one back making 8 mill a year...

https://overthecap.com/position/running-back/

 

Who were the last money guys... looking for the big money... Holmes and Wallace?

 

I agree. McCoy's deal IS for $8M/year avg. but I'd guess the big sticking point with Le'Veon will be guaranteed money. McCoy is guaranteed $18M, that's the highest among NON-rookie contracts (which are dictated by which round you're selected). After that Doug Martin is guaranteed $15M and Lamar Miller $14M. After that there is a huge drop-off to $9m in guarantees. So, IF Bell is willing to bet on himself (not suffering a major injury) he could earn unprecedented money for a running back by playing under the franchise tag the next two seasons (assuming he's tagged next year). Any deal that may be reached would have to guarantee him much more than what McCoy is getting to even come close to the guarantees he'd receive under the franchise tag. If I were to guess, he's going to want 50% guaranteed which would be higher than McCoys 46%. At $10M for five years thats $25M or $20M for 4 years.

 

And AP is now making 3.5 mill on a 7 mill 2 year contract, and thats my point, Bells timing for a new deal for what he wants isnt going to happen this year or next year, this team isnt going to pay him mega dollars when the market says he wants more than he is worth here or any where else for that matter......

 

I never said he would get 8 mill, I said he will never get 15 mill here or on any other team, thats quarterback money, and he better have a career year or he can forget getting 12...

 

Well if the highest avg/year is McCoy at $8M and the next highest is almost $1M lower, I'm wondering how Bell is going to negotiate anything higher than $10M avg/year. I really think $9M avg/year (making him the highest paid by $1M/year more than McCoy) is more likely. $10M would be almost too much, with the current market!

Playing out 2 years under the tag would mean $13.5M, so signing a long term deal would pay him significantly less, I'd assume. And if he's going to play under the tag, I wouldn't expect to see him at any team function that he wasn't obligated to be at (contractually) simply to avoid injury.

 

Antonio and Ben?

 

Then how did Shady sign a deal for $8M/year when he was arguably the best back in the league and AP had the "market set" at $15M? I see your point but the market has taken a strong downturn on RBs since over the past two seasons.

If anyone is worth $12M/year, it's Bell and I have no problem with him wanting that... I'm just not sure any contender can/will pay that in the current NFL. They can make him the highest paid rb by far at $10M per. While the tag may pay him up to $26M over the next two years, I don't think that will set the bar for a long term deal. I think he's in a rough situation because he's worth more than what the current market for RBs pays. But maybe he can set the new bar, like you're saying.

 

With Bells unfortunate injury history and workload, I'd think guaranteed money would be the smartest thing to strive for. With back to back tags the guaranteed money is $26-27M over two years. 5 years at 10 million with 50% guaranteed gets him that money, plus a long term deal. That beats Shadys deal of 5 year/ $40M at 46% guaranteed.

 

With his history and Market value of RB's what I mentioned in previous thread is all
I would be willing too offer Le'vean. And I feel that is too much.

 

I honestly don't care if they sign him long term or not. Between injuries and suspensions he's never been fully available to the team. Considering a running backs career length it really doesn't make sense to sign him to a long term deal. Franchise him for a couple years and let someone else overpay for a running back on the tail end of his career.

 

i still say the two franchise years and move on. actual age and years in the league kind of counter each other to an extent at this position. timmons kind of fell into this scenario too for us. youngish but years in the league added up. according to this article bell would be at the decline age after two seasons of the tag.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjGpq2cycfUAhVLeT4KHTw5AsQQFghGMAY&url=http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/123542/inside-slant-running-back-cliff-after-age-27&usg=AFQjCNFfZ84efTWSYEqzRQcarUuo5GcZ2A

 

At 29-30 that's a lot of mileage on a rb. Don't get me wrong he's an outstanding back, but he's got a limited shelf life. We won't be able to grab a Bell clone, but great backs aren't hard to come by.

 

I think his exclusive tag is a one time deal, they will either sign him to a longer contract or move on between now and the start of the off season, and it's on Bell to prove he can have a career season to even deserve an extended contract..........

 

i believe it's a franchise tag and then in year two they can use the transition tag. anyone?

 

There are 3 different tag designations: Exclusive- non exclusive and transition:

Feb 27 2017
The Pittsburgh Steelers ensured Le'Veon Bell isn't hitting the free-agent market.

The team placed the exclusive franchise tag on the dual-threat running back on Monday, per NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport. The exclusive tag means he cannot negotiate with any other team.