~ OFFICIAL 2017 TSF.COM FANTASY DRAFT STEELERS VOTING & DISCUSSION ~

I was going to vote for him at 3b, but while you're mentioning him...PFF said he only missed 4 of the 70 solo tackles he attempted and allowed only .33 yards per coverage snap from the slot last year. Pretty impressive.

 

I really want to go CB here but I am very nervous of guys who have good combines and their stock rise. Found this on him and it really makes me wonder is he our guy here:

Sources say that Griffin didn't play up to his combine speed in college as he was beaten deep and his instincts were off. Thus, they had given him late-round grades

Is Douglas a better option:
Sources say that Douglas has good size to him for the NFL, and they see him being a big press-man corner with ball skills. He also has early round potential, but sources say that since Douglas is a 1-year wonder, there is some risk to him. Douglas had some highlights and lowlights at the Senior Bowl. He is a very scheme-specific kind of player, and that could cause him to slide in the 2017 NFL Draft.

Or how about Myrick, I feel like Griffin is a reach here no? Again I really think we need to go CB but also need to get value, thoughts?

 

Saw a Steeler scout watching him at the Miami pro day sooo

 

Douglas predominantly played zone at WVU whereas Myrick played press a lot, but he's only 5'9. So I guess if you are debating between the two, do you go with the guy with size and zone experience - Douglas or the guy with press experience but smaller - Myrick? Would you be looking at Myrick as our slot CB?

 

My vote: Jourdan Lewis...seems like the best press corner left on the board, and it's sounding like they want to move to some more of that coverage. His legal matter will be behind him before long and he can focus on football.

 

Why isn't there a post about free beer this round?

 

I'm going with this guy based on his name alone. It's kind of like that song "A Boy Named Sue", RIP Mr. Cash. Sue grows up to be a bad ass cause of his name. With a name like Corn... Forget about it. Midnight beer logic!

 

Yeah I any CB we draft would start as a slot guy and then we will see what happens, so he needs to be able to play both imo. I really want a guy with ball skills, a ball hawk kind of guy then I look at size. I prefer a guy 6' but will not throw a guy out cause he is 5 10, however the 5 7 guys I do not want, jmo.

 

What I was referring to was this:

3/25/17: There wasn't much of a buzz about Griffin heading into the combine, but Griffin used the big stage to show off an impressive skill set. The 6-foot, 194-pounder has good size, but surprised by illustrating special speed with a 4.38-second time in the 40-yard dash. Griffin also has good length and moved well in the field drills. His impressive combine could cause teams to take a second look at him and reevaluate where they would take him.

I am not a big fan of guys who weren't on teams radar until they come to the combine and then have big days. I have read several times that this kid do play to his 40 time. I don't know much about him, I like his size and I like that he has ball skills and I like that he tackles. We are looking at drafting him here in the 3rd when everything I have read has him in the 4-6 range. Not that that is correct I am just worried we are reaching here, but like I said we really need to go CB here.

I am leaning his way as the options are slim, I don't want Lewis with the off field stuff and then his height weight. I am so confused on who to vote for........

 

IMO, if you have the time to groom a player, kinda like Aaron Rodgers when Favre was still around, you could draft someone like Douglas and teach him the fundamentals of playing more press man. He may not end up as the best in the league at it, but that IS something that is somewhat teachable.

But I also believe that the time is now, and they don't have time to wait. They need players who are ready to contribute immediately at some of these positions. So far, I believe both of our picks are day 1 starters if need-be

 

Voting for Howard Wilson CB - looks like he has the physical traits we are coveting, just needs some experience.

 

Not really a fan of any of these CBs at this point in the draft. but if that's who our options are I guess I'll vote for

Jourdan Lewis

 

My vote goes for west Virginia cb Rasul Douglas

 

Seems like most are on page with getting a CB. Here are some of the testing #s that I could find. Best #s in bold...Definitely not the be all, end all for drafting though, just some additional info in case one is drafted in the real thing..

Shaq Griffin- 4.38 40, 38-1/2 vert, 17 reps, 4.14 shuttle, 6.87 3 cone 132 broad (combine)

Corn Elder-4.55 40 (combine) 4.45 40 (pro day) Not sure why he didn't test in others...

Jourdan Lewis- 4.54 40, 34-1/2 vert, 15 reps 121 broad (combine) 4.45 40, 6.88 3 cone (pro day)

Rasul Douglas- 4.59 40, 33-1/2 vert, 16 reps, 4.26 shuttle, 6.97 3 cone 120 broad (combine) 4.57 40 (pro day)

Howard Wilson- 4.57 40, 33-1/2 vert, 3.94 shuttle, 6.68 3 cone 119 broad (combine) 4.58 40 (pro day) Healthy at pro day but refused to do drills even at the scouts urging.

 

Sorry late to the discussion, but those CB's seem to be much later round options. Highest I saw them rated was 5th round. I was evaluating CB's for my Seattle pick and couldn't justify a 3rd rounder on any of those guys.

How about a WR, say Isaiah Ford WR Virginia Tech? MB is still an unknown and the rest of the WR's have problems with the dropsies.

 

I'm still waiting for directions. He said we'd have to drive to Binghamton, and that would only take me 10 minutes.

BTW, I'm going with Jourdan Lewis, CB.

 

Sorry folks but I'm going to have to change my vote from Griffin to Elder. Hate to be that guy lol. I too was going off the one game on DBD and by the interest the Steelers showed pre-draft. But I watched that game again and found another on youtube and saw a lot of the same things that I didn't like in the first one. Just very little effort in chasing plays and in run support. Pass coverage is hard to determine as they don't show the angles very often. Speed is great, but I will value effort and tenacity over measurables when looking at CBs in this particular instance.

Vote changed to Corn Elder..

Marlon Mack had a couple nice runs here too...

 

Oh wow man you passing thru or from around here? I work in Binghamton (kinda I travel a lot)but don't live here. Let me know I am not one to welch on a beer......

My vote is for Shaquill Griffin basically cause he is the best of the bunch from what I have read. For the record I don't like the options here and if this is the way it goes for real I will be sick. This is kinda why we shouldn't go OLB in the first round. Look at the options left at olb, Phillips and Smoot imo are better value right here than any of these CB's, that's JMO.

 

As I look at this mock draft, there have been a lot of edge rushers and corners that have gone off the board. I looked at other positions to see if someone is falling to us, but I did not see anyone that stood out from a crowd. I am casting my vote for Jourdan Lewis. Hopefully his Steelers visit went well and he answered the questions about the domestic assault issue that pleased the brass. I like some of Griffin's measurables, but I think the 3rd round is a slight reach for him. Amara Darboh, WR, from Michigan is my second choice for 3a, hopefully he will be there for 3b.