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Steelers tell AB to stop with celebration penalties

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. defva

    defva Well-Known Member

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    You guys are missing the point. I'm old skool and have been a fan since 1970. Now, with that being said, they didn't any tougher then back in those days and you billy " white shoe" Johnson...the fun bunch...just to name a few. Its all about flavor, entertainment, and that God forbid word "Fun"!
    Now, I was all for banning the T.O's...ocho cinco's of the world celebrations...but come on dancing and hand slapping? Really?? Omg, do you know how many baseball and basketball players would get penalized and/or fined for unsportmanlike?! If you just want to give to ball back to the ref, or start dancing from the 10 yd line into the end zone ala Deion "primetime" Sanders...you should be able to do so. If you don't want to see me dance then don't throw the ball my way.
     
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  2. black hat

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    ...and therein lies the problem. The "point" is not whether or not anyone agrees with the rule. The "point" is that AB continues to violate it and cost his team penalty yards. Why do you continue to insist that he "should be able to" violate the rule if he wants to? Because he disagrees with it? What if he disagreed with offensive pass interference, and cost his team yards after every potential reception, because he refused to stop pushing off? Would you defend his right to do it? Would you say, "If you don't want to see (him) (commit pass interference) then don't throw the ball (his) way?"

    I have also been watching football since the the '70's. When did watching or playing football cease to be "fun?" When did it cease to be the "entertainment"? I just don't get your argument.
     
  3. defva

    defva Well-Known Member

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    If you have been watching football since the 70's then your vision must be worse then Stevie wonders. Michael Irvin was the master of pushing off (offensive pass interference)...all the way to the Hof. Consistency in enforcing the rules fairly is what I am speaking of. There is Not one rule that is consistently or fairly enforced. So, don't give me that... Players should go by the rules to the tee. Its laughable because you yourself don't drive the speed limit on the road. Technically, if you get pulled over for going 56 mph in a 55 mph zone...then you are not going by the rule and can be ticketed....but do you see how asinine that is?!
     
  4. AskQuestionsLater

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    One more thing in addition. The NFL wants to promote good sportsmanship by enforcing these levels of penalties. Here in lies the problem; it is indirectly destroying what the NFL built its foundation on; entertainment.



    The more the NFL constructs and enforces said rules, the more dull the league gets as such regulations ruin the character and vibrancy the game provides.



    Within the same token, Goodell just cannot get rid of these rules so easily as this will make him and the competition committee look asinine and foolish. Too many rules and the ratings will continue to suffer (much of this is Goodell's impatience of getting to the $25 billion revenue mark). Not an easy task for him at all.



    In the end though, some of you may be asking "how does anything you just said have anything to do with Antonio Brown?" Until the league renews or lessens the enforcement of unsportsmanlike conduct, players like Antonio must honor the rulebook. Otherwise, should Antonio or other players like Odel Beckham Jr. do this in a playoff setting, such actions will sett off a cataclysmic snowballing effect.
     
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  5. thorn058

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    Would the elaborate handshake/high five been ok if they hadn't shaken their hips? I mean I think I've seen guys basically wait in line to do that even as recently as this year.
     
  6. AskQuestionsLater

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    I doubt it personally. Like I stated, the NFL is attempting to showcase more "sportsmanship" for the newcomers considering they believe their existing fanbase is stable enough. The idea is that this will entice newer fans to increase their ratings due to their belief that the hardcore will accept these "miniscule changes."


    Problem is, even an existing fanbase can get frustrated should too many changes detriment ones favorite medium. Case in point? Too many rule changes to accommodate the newer markets the NFL is attempting to grab in a greater attempt to get to the $25 billion revenue mark by 2025.
     
  7. Natalie

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  8. AskQuestionsLater

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    All the more reason this whole myth the NFL has embedded within themselves needs to stop.



    Hopefully prominent owners like Jerry Jones and Dan Rooney bring this up in the NFL owners meeting in the upcoming off season. The acronym "No Fun League" is living up to its name and driving away these "new untapped markets" the NFL keeps spouting about. :facepalm:
     
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  9. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Coordinated celebrations should be scored by an independent panel of judges from Dancing with the Stars. If they score average of 8 or higher, then they get the conversion points automatically, but lose the right to a conversion if they score lower.

    Man, I should work for one of the networks.
     
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  10. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    This one was worth the penality though
     
  11. SteelinOhio

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    Right now the point isn't whether we enjoy watching celebrations or not, it's about costing the team penalty yards. I don't mind some basic celebration, I mean it's natural to be excited to score points, but doing it in excess of the rules and costing the team with the current rules is the issue at the moment. If the league changes the rules and allows more exuberant celebrations without penalty, fine, but that's not the way it is right now.
     
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  12. Natalie

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    I agree...I was mostly making the point it's a stupid rule. But like I said if it's blatantly excessive that's ridiculous. :)
     
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  13. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    "...and William Gay continues the somewhat...ridiculous celebration." LOL!!!
     
  14. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    If I were a kicker I'd come up with cool celebrations to accompany each made fg. LOL!
     
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  15. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    When I watched it live I thought he had crawled all the way from the end zone, which would have been amazing.
     
  16. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    I thought the same thing and yes it would have been. LOL!
     
  17. black hat

    black hat Well-Known Member

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    I agree. No rule is consistently or fairly enforced. Does that mean that I should escape the consequence or penalty, if it is? Should I never get a speeding ticket, because I didn't get one last week when I was doing forty-five in a thirty-five mile per hour zone? Or because I know someone who speeds all the time and never gets a ticket? That's what you consistently seem to be saying. I'm saying that we all choose to follow the rules or not follow the rules. If we choose not to follow the rules, we need to be prepared to deal with the potential consequences, not whine about the rules or the inconsistencies in the way they're enforced. You're right. I've had multiple speeding tickets, but I don't blame the police officers who issued them. I hated paying the fines and having to take another written test to avoid having my license suspended, but it was my fault. Get it? It was my fault. It was not the fault of the law or the ones paid to enforce it.
     
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