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AB could take some lessons from this guy...

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by JackAttack 5958, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...-Steelers-Ravens-rivalry/stories/201611040105

    Man, I miss Hines. As Starkey said, he truly does define the rivalry the Steelers had with the Rats. He was the most intimidating offensive player in football for a decade and always did it with a beautiful smile on his face. The smiling assassin if you will. Some of our receivers could use the kind of leadership that Hines used to provide for our receiving corps. You'll see in the article that Hines was willing to do whatever it took for the team to win. If they were running the ball he was blocking his butt off every.single.play!

    Compare that to AB's attitude of late and his recent comments in which he said "I'ma do what I wanna do" when asked about his endzone celebrations which result in penalties to the team. AB is at somewhat of a crossroads in his career right now. Is he going to go the way of many divas in the past (Wallace, Holmes) or is he going to step up, grow up and man up like Hines Ward did every.single.day?!
     
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  2. DwarfToss

    DwarfToss Well-Known Member

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    How was Wallace a diva? Or Holmes?

    If anyone was, Hines was.
     
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  3. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    You forgot the green font! :roflmao:
     
  4. RPO IZSB

    RPO IZSB Well-Known Member

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    Maybe AB should've held out like Ward did...
     
  5. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    You're comparing apples and oranges here but both are very nutritional.
     
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  6. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    No, but maybe AB should focus more on how to be a team first guy instead of a me first guy. I thought early in his career that he was an unselfish player who really wanted to put the team first. The last couple of seasons, he's shown some signs that he could be evolving into a me first kind of guy. I remember last season after a win or two, AB sulked because he wasn't being thrown the ball enough. That's a me first attitude. When you're asked about endzone celebrations that result in penalties to your team and your response is "Ima do what I wanna do" that's a me first attitude. When Heath Miller last season has to tell you to get yourself under control you may be developing a me first attitude.

    I don't think AB is too far gone at this point and I wouldn't call him a diva, but he really needs to get himself in check. It's not all about him but he's a big part of making this TEAM tick. But he's got be unselfish and he's got to provide leadership for young players like Eli Rogers who apparently has the words mandatory and optional confused as they relate to team meetings. I always thought Hines was a consummate professional both on and off the field and did a good job of providing that example to the younger receivers on the team.
     
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  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Gee, I hope AB is not taking lessons from Hines, I was kind of hoping the Steelers could workout a contract, without him holding out.

    I'm happy with AB the way he is, extremely hard working and best WR in the league.

    You keep being you, AB :thumbs up:
     
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  8. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    To be fair Jack the games where he was upset last season were the ones where Vick couldn't get him the ball and he was pretty much the only real threat weapon out there or when Landry Jones was in he wasn't a focal point for the offense. He had a point in those games.
     
  9. AskQuestionsLater

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    Guess not many people remembered how Hines held out; that or tend to ignore that aspect entirely.


    For me, Antonio came from nothing and turned the lemons in his life into lemonade. I see a guy with a chip on his shoulder playing his heart out and not this "diva" moniker that had been stuck to him.
     
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  10. darcrav

    darcrav Well-Known Member

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    oh i'm sure Jackattack remembers the hold out
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    remember the way Hines called out Big Ben when he had a headache and didn't play in Bmore when we needed him most.

    So glad to see Jackattack back and smacking you all around
     
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  11. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    That is true and I can understand the frustration. But to me the time to complain about not getting the ball is NOT after a win. Like I said, I'm not trying to say he's gone full on Terrell Owens at this point but he needs to realize that it's not about him. He's a vital piece to the team's success but it's about the team first. I've just seen some signs of immaturity out of him the last couple of seasons and he's got to get that under control.
     
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  12. JackAttack 5958

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    Oh come on, Blast! You know I was referring to his on the field leadership and trying to be an example to some of the younger receivers on the team like Coates and Rogers (and Bryant when he returns). Whether AB likes it or not, he's one of the veterans on this team now and he dang sure needs to act like it. The team needs solid veteran leadership in a bad sort of way so it's time for AB to step it up and fill that role. He is hard working, I don't argue that point at all. In fact, he's one of the hardest workers on the team if not the hardest. Let's see him put that kind of work ethic into developing into a solid veteran leader. I think he can do it!
     
  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Of course I knew ;)

    But to your point, AB's play on the field and tireless work in practice is leadership. The other receivers have said that AB has helped to improve their route running.

    I think as usual, a player does something deemed negative and then it gets blown way out of proportion. His demanding the ball and dancing are total non issues to me.
     
  14. JackAttack 5958

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    You're right, on the field play and being hard working are all good qualities for a leader and I hope our young receivers emulate that. The dichotomy is that it's possible to undo some of that with mouth diarrhea and uncontrollable twerking which costs your team yardage because "Ima do what I wanna do" an at. :smiley1:
     
  15. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I'm starting to drink the Koolaid! Site Admin

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    Objectively:
    • It's not the dancing, it's the overt disregard for the field position disadvantage his dancing will hand his team's defense;
    • There's also the shoes, which he deliberately wore after being told to change and which he changed only after being threatened with ejection.
     
  16. SDOT

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    Trying to get your worth >>> bringing up your contract every off-season for 3 straight years. Ward is a lifer, AB won't be. Writing is on the wall, he will be with the Dolphins.
     
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  17. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I understand the displeasure with the penalties, thats fair but it hasn't hurt the team, no victories have been lost due to those 2 penalties. It would be different if a defensive player was costing their team 15 yards deep in their own territory. Or and offensive player losing critical yards while in the opponents side of the field.

    And, there are definitely people unhappy about the dancing, even if it wasn't drawing flags. There are people who prefer players to just hand the ball to the officials, thats fine, I loved Heath too. I also like the dancing. I think Gays dance is really funny.

    The only kind of celebrations that annoy me are the first down ones. I love Bell, one of my favorite players but his little point after he gets a first down is ridiculous, IMO. If it's a really great play, then ok, but after every routine first down, silly to me. Same with all players who do stuff like that.
     
  18. Clive From PIT

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    I don't think hindsight is the proper perspective. :hmm: The point was Me v. Team. Doing something that you know in advance will draw a personal foul penalty -- and in a situation where the entire stadium's watching you -- just doesn't strike me as a team-first attitude.

    I don't have any problem with celebrations. I thought Terrell Owens and Ocho had some good ones, too. I draw the line at the player deliberately doing one when he KNOWS it's going to give the other team better field position. (I've also been unimpressed by the Steelers' kick-return defensive play, so giving the other guys any extra rom to operate makes me nervous.)

    Agree on the first-down-pointy thing. There again, though, I find a little finger-point not as over the top as a stick-the-whole-arm-out-then-drop-the-ball.
     
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  19. tyler christopher

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    Brown is being a baby right now cause he is not gonna win the recieving title again and that is not good. Hines was all about winning games not if business was booming...............
     
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  20. darcrav

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    well atleast AB has his cleats (outfit) picked out for the ravens game already

    i believe Hines had picked what player he was going to KNOCK OUT in advance
     
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