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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Coastal Steeler, Jul 22, 2016.

  1. dobbler-33

    dobbler-33 Well-Known Member

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    Try working manual labor. Far mor horror stories there far more injuries there and far less money to soothe the pain.
     
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  2. snipit73

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    If you're gonna worry about the pain you might endure then don't sign the friggin contract!!!!!!!
     
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  3. SteelerGlenn

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    To your first point. Exactly, how do you know what type of pain he's in or if it justifies breaking the law and the rules.
    You're last comment. I never said the rules should or shouldn't change. I said he broke them and he has to live with the consequences. Unfortunately his teammates and Steeler Nation have to live with it too.
     
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  4. Wardismvp

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    Doobler 33, you are making way too much sense in this post. I have proposed this scenario over and over for punishment but to no avail.

    Hard labor for criminals 8-10 hrs a day breaking stone, maybe this would be a deterrant to these delinquints of society. Just maybe
    they would not want to break the law and have to come back to the labor gang?

    It is being reported LB has missed multiple tests, why do you not take tests if you did nothing wrong? If your innocent or not guilty?
    To all these world class athletes that God gave you incredible ability, good luck in the real world. To blow a chance of a lifetime
    to smoke dope? May God help you.
     
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  5. Blast Furnace

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    Thats because far more people work in manual labor jobs. I worked carpentry and as a landscaper growing up, and since I was new, I did a lot of the hump work, it was hard work but nothing to cry about. You guys are seriously underestimating the pain and danger involved with playing football. Biggest difference is athletes are well compensated but it's absolutely brutal what their bodies are put through.

    This isn't a defense of Bell though, he let a lot of people down if his appeal falls through.

    Been done, called chain gangs. No form of punishment is a deterrent to commit crime. I'm all for the death penalty and lex talionis but not because I feel it will prevent crime, I just feel they should be punished.
     
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  6. blountforcetrauma

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    Ricky Williams comes to mind. I'm sure he made some money but certainly not what he could have.
     
  7. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    thats the part i have a problem with. these other guys work they're tails off to get that ring and a lot of people build a winning formula for this team to win and a couple of guys are selfish and hurt everyone elses hard work. :cool:
     
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  8. Blast Furnace

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  10. thesteeldeal

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    sorry but you mention that you did manual labor when you were younger and I'm assuming a lot younger. There is a big difference in the things you can do physically when you are younger and it seems like you did the smart thing to get out while you can,some of us aren't as smart or lucky. I think a lot of us here are around the same age.Me being 47 and a laborer in NYC Local 79 I can think of plenty of things going wrong with my body to cry about. I don't think I am underestimating the pain and danger that may be involved but I think you may be underestimating those of us that are still busting our humps at this age with many more years to look forward to. It's a choice I and many others have made to provide for our families and I don't want or expect pity or sympathy from anyone ,and in turn I surely don't have any for them...
    All I can say is I think I have a pretty good idea of what living through pain is and those guys have it rough too I understand....but given the chance to trade places with any of them ,there is only one question I need to ask..................where do I sign?[/QUOTE]
     
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  11. Blitz

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  12. darcrav

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    [/QUOTE]
    check your ergonomics
     
  13. Wardismvp

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    So is Bell/ MB really any different than Burfict, Pacman Jones? I agree with you 100% Mac, what about all the other hardworking
    players, coaches, front office people striving to win a Superbowl?
     
  14. Wardismvp

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    Bravo GREAT POST, I have also done manual labor most of my life and still do. I am 9 yrs older than you, trying to push myself every day, but body is
    breaking down as we speak. Your post should be required reading for all. I also will
    sign on the dotted line. Show me where to sign. Will make as much in 4-5 years that it took me all my life to make. These Prima Donas
    have it made, the best of the best health care. The best of the best specialty care. Yea give me a break. I also believe they are pension eligible after 5 years of service? I am not sure of this though.
     
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  15. SteelerGlenn

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    Laborers local 110 St. Louis here. I'm a Hod carrier/Mason Tender. I get my Ass kicked every day. I've got a list of issues with my body breaking down. I've got a kid to put through college, a family to support and a retirement to plan for.
    Football players go through a lot and have some major wear and tear on their bodies. But they get paid really well for it.

    IMO the whole "I smoke weed to deal with the pain" excuse is BS in most cases. They just like getting high.
    What's Snoop Dogs excuse? We all know being a rapper is really hard on you physically.
    It's a culture and the majority of them are just looking for clever ways to justify it.
     
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  16. SteelerGlenn

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    Actually worse.
     
  17. Blast Furnace

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    Sorry if you thought I was taking a shot at laborers. My post was more in defense of what football players go through. And because they are well compensated, they forfeit the right to express the pain that comes with it. Some people (not saying you) seem to hold a grudge against athletes because they cashed in on their God given talent and then mock them because of the pain they endure.

    I'm your age, I did labor for 10 years from my teens into my 20's and got out for several reasons, mostly because the ceiling on the salary I could make wasn't enough but also because the labor wasn't something I wanted to spend my life doing. I heard some great advice when I was younger, "it's your life, if you aren't happy with it, change it." Several changes later, finally found my niche and run my own business. All those changes led me to where I am, especially the last place I worked when the scumbag of an owner instructed my supervisor to shut off the radios and get us back to work on 9/11 and even fired a girl for leaving that day. That was the final push to get into business for myself. I don't have a college education and I don't have a silver spoon in my mouth, I just took action.

    Most people (again, not saying you) would rather ***** about their lives then do something about it.
     
  18. SteelerBark

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    Typically, where there is smoke there is fire. He's on my fantasy team and I would be ecstatic to see the suspension lifted. But, not gonna happen folks. Only Tom Brady can get out of a suspension...but the NFL always wins in the end with their iron fist rule.

    These words are just an attempt to deflect the heat on LB right now. He just needs to man up and accept the repercussions for his immaturity and egregious irresponsible behavior. Follow the rules and all this BS never happens.

    The kid is an enormous talent. Can't deny that fact. Maybe he needs to hire a life coach so he can make better decisions.
     
  19. Diamond

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    Bravo GREAT POST, I have also done manual labor most of my life and still do. I am 9 yrs older than you, trying to push myself every day, but body is
    breaking down as we speak. Your post should be required reading for all. I also will
    sign on the dotted line. Show me where to sign. Will make as much in 4-5 years that it took me all my life to make. These Prima Donas
    have it made, the best of the best health care. The best of the best specialty care. Yea give me a break. I also believe they are pension eligible after 5 years of service? I am not sure of this though.[/QUOTE]


    Players retirement pension is pro rated at 450$ for each year they play in the NFL, so depending on the number of years played they mulitiply that by 450 and thats what they will earn monthly in pension for life, a player is not eligible to draw the retirement pension untill they turn age 55....
     
  20. Blast Furnace

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    The reasons I have heard aren't going to win him his appeal IMO. Well, one won't anyway. So far, and this isn't from Bell or the Steelers or any NFL official, just a couple of reasons that are circulating.

    1) He got a new phone number. That wont fly, its his responsibility to make sure they have his contact info at all times.

    2) He wanted them to come to him to administer the test because he was rehabbing his knee and they refused. This one carries a little more weight but far from a slam dunk. However, they seem to have no trouble showing up at JH's house so he may actually have a chance with this one.
     
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  21. thesteeldeal

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    I told you were smart:smiley1: but I must be pretty smart too....after all I am a Steeler fan:steelflag:
     
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  22. thesteeldeal

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    Thanks Wardismvp and Glenn my hat (hard hat) off to you guys. Mason tender too Glenn among many other things.
     
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  23. AFan

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    Number 2 is interesting,but from what I've come to understand is that the testers routinely go to where the players are. Maybe for some bizarro reason they declined this time. Which would be hard to understand.
    I'm also led to believe you have to miss multiple time to get the discipline.


    Maybe LB 's story is square. But I have my doubts. And if it it isn.'t he's not only a dope, but he's a clueless one too. And that bodes ill for his future.
     
  24. dobbler-33

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    100% agree it's a culture thing or a trendy thing and never the owner of said stupidities fault!
     
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  25. blountforcetrauma

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    Teamsters Local 519 with 15 years at UPS. Last year I spent the first 3 months out of work with a 5lb weight limit with some severe shoulder problems. I had to see 3 different doctors in that time span and literally every single one of them told me the same thing at different times. "Quit your job". I told them that was easy for them to say. They told me my body is just simply not designed to handle what I do over the long haul but I love my job and couldn't even imagine doing anything else. What's funny is there are tons of "testimonials" on youtube from people who get jobs there and just can't handle the pace and workload that UPS wants us to be able to maintain. The sad thing is that most of them are young guys that should be more than capable of doing it. I was talking to a kid the other day and told him he was getting outdone by an old man and he said he didn't care and that working hard was stupid. I told him that was the wrong attitude to have for UPS and my other buddy that's even older than me was talking about how sad it is that a 34 and a 44 year old could outdo such young kids. It's a generational thing for sure.
     
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