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Discussion in 'The Watercooler' started by Ray D, Oct 24, 2011.

  1. NY STEELERFAN

    NY STEELERFAN Well-Known Member

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    Me either blast I don't read the comics and I don't real spoilers. The closest to "inside info" is this thread and the talking dead. I feel that they already done the baby thing with Judith so they are done with that. I feel like they are gonna do something that will result in the loss of the baby or the death of Maggie. I think Carol has lost her place in this group and the whole keeping track of the kills thing has got me wondering if she is going over the edge. I just can't see Daryl being off this show, just can't you know who is probably next is Michonne. I mean look what happens when you hook up with Rick.....you die.............:facepalm: lol
     
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    Carol's been going over the edge and slowly losing it for quite some time now. Trust me... Women know women. I've been seeing this in Carol for quite some time now, pretty much since she killed Karen and David and was banished from the prison. Little by little she's been going cuckoo for cocoa puffs. Not long after our group arrived in Alexandria, I was so angry when she told Sam that if he told anyone she stole the chocolate that she would tie him to a tree and let the walkers get him. Who does that to a child? She's nuts!

    I started disliking Carol way back when she was always telling Rick that they should keep things from the group and not tell them. It was instant dislike from that moment on.


    This is what I fear most. :(


    I like your gut. :lolol:
     
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  3. SteelinOhio

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    I didn't get to watch this weeks episode until last night. I enjoyed it, but I don't have a whole lot to say about it. It just felt like everything was going waaaaay too easy and was going to be almost anti-climactic after the bloodbath I was expecting, right up until the last 10 seconds. Then it was like, "uh oh".
     
  4. pjgruden

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    Yeah, I knew this attack was just too easy. And I was right.
    Abraham is one cold SOB.
    And then I love Eugene who came in right after Abraham walked out.
    And is it sad that Gabriel has a bigger set then Tyreae ever did?
     
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  5. strummerfan

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    I"m guessing you forgot about Tyreese and his hammer
     
  6. pjgruden

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    I figured Tyrese just started to cry and the Walkers all walked away because he was a little wuss.
     
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  7. steelgirl84

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    I have the Compendiums (they're 3 big books of the comics). Back in Season 3, I spoiled one of the episodes for myself & hated it. So I usually tend to read the compendiums/parts of them AFTER its already happened on the show.
    Tyreese was tough SOB with that hammer in the comic. They really screwed up his character in the show. I mean, he started off good. But then he kind of got a little soft. So pjgruden, you may be right. Gabriel has certainly showed he has a set. How big they are remains to be seen.

    I really hope Carol doesn't die- and I really don't think it will. Not yet anyway. I like this thing with Tobin. I LOVE the relationship between Carol & Daryl. Or at least what it used to be. But they wouldn't be good in a romantic relationship. I don't like the influence Morgan is having on Carol. She has done some awful things for the good of the group & they were eventually going to catch up to her. I think Morgan & his "all life is precious" CRAP is making her think. Now is not the time for this to happen, they're going to war. I could be wrong though- she could die tomorrow night.

    I do wish Morgan would go away, he's already got people killed & the wolves are nothing compared to what I've heard about the Saviors. Speaking of them- I think Rick is definitely taking them a little lightly. He has reason to think he can take care of them. He & his group of have taken out some heavy hitters- but none with the batting average of Negan & the Saviors. But he doesn't know that yet. I get why he didn't do any surveillance on Negan's compound. He couldn't risk being caught. But WHY didn't they at least ask how they'd know if they found Negan/what he looks like??!!

    One last thing- I'm not an Abraham fan anymore either. It wouldn't have been so bad if he would've told her he was leaving when he & Daryl & Sasha got back to Alexandria. But he didn't, he slept with her. He's a pig. For him to say that he thought she was the last woman in the world & he found out she's not is terrible. That's like her telling him that she's leaving because she thought he had the biggest penis in the world but she found out he doesn't. With him gone though- I think Rosita & Spencer would be cute together.
     
  8. Blast Furnace

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    Great, now they think they killed Nagen and now Nagen is going to mount an assault against them in the middle of the night, or something like that.

    Nagen must have an army, they killed so many of his group already, the guys they blew up on the road, the complex raid and now the 5 more in yesterdays show.

    Only 3 episodes left, going to have to make his appearance soon.
     
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    Carol, Carol, Carol... I was right about you all along. Her interactions with her doppelgänger made her see exactly what she is. It was like looking in a mirror.

    I really enjoyed last night's episode. I was so worried about Maggie; didn't care about Carol. I wanted her to get bitten by the walker so badly. Sorry, not sorry. I still don't like her.

    I did enjoy watching Paula's face get eaten off. That was pretty cool. :lolol:

    So, they are all Negan. How cult-like.


    Didn't they know his name was Primo? I'd have to go back and watch it again. I know Paula and her crew called him by name while discussing him amongst themselves, but I don't remember if she called him Primo while in discussions with Rick over the walkie-talkie.
     
  10. Blast Furnace

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    I think they may have but one of the captors told Carol and Maggie that they are all Nagen.

    So its possible that Ricks group will now think the Saviors collectively think of themselves as Nagen. like some kind of cult thing.
     
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  11. SteelinOhio

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    The way they played it out on this weeks episode, if I wasn't aware of the fact that Jeffrey Dean Moran is playing Negan, I would be thinking the same thing as a viewer, and thinking that maybe they're really changing it up to give comic readers who watch the show something new and different. But Jeffrey Dean Morgan.
     
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  12. Blast Furnace

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    Yup, my friend bought it hook line and sinker, I didnt want to spoil it for her by telling her that JDM has already been cast as him :lolol:

    I saw some pics of him in character, he looks bad ass.
     
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    Freakin' Eugene, man. :roflmao: OMG! I was losing it laughing.

    I'm really sad and bummed about Dr. Denise. I was really enjoying her weird sense of humor and her quirky awkwardness. I'm glad they addressed that it was her twin brother that Daryl reminded her of. So now they have no doctor.

    Bye, Carol. Please don't come back. Just die already. If her leaving gets Daryl, Morgan or anyone else killed because they go after her, I'm going to hate her even more and I don't know if that's even possible.

    Glad Daryl got all his toys back.

    Lucky Rosita. She slept with Spencer. Yum! :lolol:
     
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  14. Blast Furnace

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    Me too!

    I was worried for her that whole show and then it seemed like they made it through and shes giving Daryl and Rosita what for and thump. I was like, wait, what? What just happened? Poor Denise. :crybye:

    Dwight has to die, badly :butcher:

    Eugene is great, hes cracking me up on Talking Dead right now.
     
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    He's hilarious. They're all having a good time on Talking Dead. Ya can't help but laugh at them.

    My phone is blowing up... Everyone is texting me saying that Carol might be gone, but she isn't dead yet. :lolol: I'm the only one that doesn't like Carol. One friend stated that I shouldn't want Carol to die because then I wouldn't have anyone to hate. I told her I'd find someone. :lolol: It's fun!
     
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  16. Ray D

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    You honestly think Carol is gone for good? :hehehe:

    Eugene and Abraham were great together. And Eugene's "outside the box" combat tactics??? :eek::roflmao: (I knew it was coming from the comics. Didn't think they'd put it in the show)

    The last 2 episodes should be real rippers. Hold onto your butts.
     
  17. Bleedsteel

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    I`m still lovin` this show!
    Although, after watching last night`s episode, after binge-watching Game of Thrones season 5 dvd release, over the weekend, it felt a little tame...

    TWD, used to make me worried about their main characters, and if everything would always have a happy ending...

    And to a point, that`s still true...

    Just about the time I thought, "well, here`s another episode where everything turns out ok", they lost their doctor, in a shocking scene...

    But, overall, things have just been going a bit too smoothly for Rick, and Co. , lately, for my taste..

    Hopefully, they are lulling me into a false sense of security, before these last 2 episodes...

    And that`s another pet peeve of mine, is the short seasons/ breaking up the season into 2 halves...

    I guess that`s what all these shows do, now, but, I miss continuity...
    Why can`t I just watch them on a weekly basis, for 12 weeks, before the big, "cliff-hanger", in between seasons?

    And I have felt cheated on some things they skip over, like re-building the walls after the Wolves` attack, getting the cars lined up, to move the herd, getting the rv unstuck, after they abandoned it, when they got to Hilltop, etc... But those are minor details..

    I was also expecting an immediate retalliation from Negan, after they struck his outpost, last week,
    but, then again, if I hadn`t been reading this thread, I would have assumed they were a cult("W are All Negan"), and wouldn`t have thought too much about that...

    Since I have been reading this, I am wondering how Negan amassed so many more people, and so well organized/supplied, than the other small groups/communities we`ve encountered?

    I haven`t read the comics, so I have no background on him...

    I`m also not sure of the timeline in this series...

    Has it been roughly 3 years, since Rick woke up in the hospital? More/ Less?

    I`m wondering if Negan was military, and thus, had access to supplies, and maybe former troops, that survived in larger numbers, than the general population?

    The ones we`ve seen so far, seem like good fighters, but not well-trained, very un-polished, maybe prisoners, from somewhere?
    On the other hand, they seemed to use military-style protocol, esp. when the girl was calling in re-enforcements, on the radio, while transporting Maggie and Carol 2 weeks ago...

    She mentioned something about "Saviors Down", and "switch to such and such radio frequency"...

    They seem MUCH more organized than anyone our group has dealt with thus far...

    Also, When Maggie questioned Jesus about other groups that Hilltop was trading with, who/where are they?

    "Your world is about to get a whole lot bigger"...

    Well, I really haven`t seen any other communities, we haven`t previously seen...:hmm:

    Looking forward to finding out... and finding out if we can trust Jesus, or if he`s a hustler with another agenda!!!

    Back to the Game of Thrones thing...

    DAMN, now there is a show where they are not afraid to kill off main characters, or throw you for a loop, on who can trust who... WOW!!!:rawk:

    Same issue, with the short seasons, tho, and without HBO, waiting so long for the dvd`s to be released! LOL:lolol:
     
  18. TerribleTowelFlying

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    "You know how to bite a dick".

    :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
     
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  19. TerribleTowelFlying

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    I have to say, the pussification of Carol really annoys me.
     
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    *looks around*

    Who said they thought Carol was gone for good? Certainly not me. I never get to have nice things as far as this show is concerned. I keep waiting and waiting and... nada! :lolol:




    Carol breathing really annoys me. :lolol:

    Seriously, though... I don't really think Carol is being pussified. She's suffering from PTSD. I don't want her to go full-on "Morgan," but she darn well better be infiltrating the Saviors or somethin' because our group needs her now more than ever since we're going to war with Negan. This has all been done before. Carol was banished by Rick and then came back to save the day. Carol wanted to leave the group while she was with Tyreese at The Grove, but didn't, and now this.

    I dunno... the way she was looking at Daryl while they were burying Dr. Denise has me wondering where the-powers-that-be are heading with her character. It's certainly a head scratcher. To me, it was almost as if she was looking at Daryl for the last time. Or maybe she was just mad that Daryl didn't share his lil bottle of Jim Beam or whatever it was. :lolol:
     
  21. pjgruden

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    My theory is that even though Carol apparently left, she will eventually meet up with Morgan (how I haven't figured out yet). And the two of them will be forced to take a life, even though they don't want to. This will then change them and they will both understand that it's sometimes necessary to do what needs to be done in this world.

    And I agree with TTF, Abraham gets the best lines in the show, hands down.
     
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  22. SteelinOhio

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    Just watched this week's episode last night. For the first time since the first season (that I can recall at least), I've felt that things are just a little too laid back and things are going a little too well for too long, other than Denise this week. There has been a lot of action, it just hasn't felt like there was much risk along the way.

    My wife has been struggling with some minor anxiety issues lately, and I think she's done watching TWD with me, at least for awhile. For some reason, what happened to Denise bothered her much more than anything else on the show has, and I may be watching by myself from now on.
     
  23. NY STEELERFAN

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    Well I feel tonight's show is gonna be the calm before the storm so it may be a little boring. It have been pretty fast paced so far so I guess we are due for a slow down. I keep seeing things pop up on facebook about which character who you choose and which main character is going to be gone next week. I watch the Talking Dead and all season they have hinted that something big is gonna happen, I know some here were talking about the car in the background when Daryl blew up the bikers. Man I will have a hard time with it if it is Daryl, but if not then who Rick? Could they....would they let Rick go??? How about Michone, every woman Rick bangs ends up dead........Just some food for thought, why have they introduced people to this group with good fighting skills(Jesus) and why are people like Eugene and the preacher all of a sudden fighters????

    On a side note I was re watching prison break and noticed not only the lady who played Lori but also the guard that died was a young Abraham. Am I missing any other walking deaders in there and what is the connection of the two shows? For those who have DTV it is running on their Audience channel 239 & 500
     
  24. Blast Furnace

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    I think Rick is the only safe member on the show. For the time being anyway, if he is to ever get killed off, it will be in the final season.

    Tonights episode pissed me off, not that it wasnt good, just so many bad decisions by the group. And of course the last scene, Dwight can't die horribly enough IMO.

    Not sure who is going to go next week or how many, but I'm sure I will need the Talking Dead to help me grieve :lolol:

    And to echo TTFs comment last week, the further pussyfication of Carol is really annoying me. Shes gone from mousey abused housewife, to cold blooded badass killer to weepy reluctant badass killer *groan*
     
  25. NY STEELERFAN

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    Well guess I was wrong it really wasn't boring, but you are right Blast they make some real dumb decision. The ending really had my mouth wide ope, I even re winded it a few time to make sure it was Dwight who shot.........

    I am pretty sure Michonne is the one that is gonna get it and I am not sure whick is worse in my eye her or Daryl. Also I am pretty sure Daryl is not dying cause he is going to be on the Talking Dead next week and they don't announce things like that when some one good dies.

    Onto the whole carol thing I am not sure what to make of her, I think she is using this act to gain a edge on these people and it is kinda smart but annoying. I am not sure I dislike her as much as Morgan. He is really getting under my skin, why train to be a bad ass and then say every life matters????? I think we are setting up for a Carol and Morgan team up and them hitting a cross road on to take a life to save a life.....maybe Daryl's.

    90 Min next week I hope it don't disappoint!
     

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