Tomlin tells D. Williams to hush.

So true. So true.

 

I'm salty in the fact of us losing twice to a horrible Ravens team. Tomlin getting a skirt put on him by Harbaugh again. We win those two games and we have home field advantage, we avoid playing the Bengals again and getting Brown hurt; We most likely beat Denver/ Patriots and go to the Super Bowl.

That's in my craw; real angry about Tomlin constantly getting punked by Harbaugh.

 

Tomlin has no right criticizing anybody until he gets out of being on the bottom in the missionary position with Harbaugh.

So much so, he had to pretend to walk on the field while a play was in progress. That's how bad Harbaugh is in his head. Tomlin neeeeeeds to shut up. Because when it comes to Harbaugh, Harbaugh has a tatoo on Tomlin's left butock's cheek; "owned by Harbaugh"

 

I would bet he did talk to him personally first and was just putting some distance between the comment and the Steelers organization.

 

true same here

 

DWill is a POS

 

"Yeah, well, that's like...your opinion, man."_ The Dude

 

If Indy had an outdoor stadium it's my opinion Manning would never amassed the stats that he has. But since that wasn't the case. He will be a first rounder into the HOF. At least he knocked the Cheaters out of another shot at a Super Bowl title.

 

Being non-PC doesn't mean you have to be rude towards other people. The time to bash someone isn't during his retirement. Honestly, what's the point? The guy is done, he isn't playing anymore, why trash a guy who has had one of the greatest careers of all time, with his last year being a down year? Are players not allowed to have down years as they get older? Clearly he wasn't the same player, the whole world knows that, but as part of a team, he won when it mattered the most.

I'm anything but politically correct, but that doesn't mean I don't know when to simply say nothing. Being rude isn't non-PC. DWill could have just kept his thoughts to himself, or at least shared them with friends and family instead of the whole world, and no, that doesn't make him PC

 

What are his stats in domes vs outdoor stadiums?

 

Your refering to "timing" of something said. And I get that. But D-Will is correct when he says Peyton was garbage. But if it were me, I too would have said nothing. I'd have let him go without saying a word.

 

I've always said that he benefited from the conditions in which he played under as well. I've never liked dome teams because I just feel like the deck is stacked in their favor most of the time as far as having guys put up stats under perfect conditions.

 

I'm pretty sure his record in sub 40 degree temperatures is actually not very good. Somebody threw it out this year if I'm not mistaken.

 

And then there is the Rams, playing in a dome......

 

Here's just one example. Most of his decline seems to be <30°

http://www.milehighreport.com/2013/...ning-plays-lousy-in-cold-weather-myth-or-fact

 

Shaner when would the appropriate time be to talk about this last season of his career when the conversation was taking place in which one person was claiming something that was clearly wrong. Yes we could all honor Manning's career and ignore the sharp decline of this past season. We can blow smoke and pat him on the back and six or nine months down the road we can try to discuss it and everyone will say who cares he has retired. So yes the week of his retirement is the perfect time to discuss Manning career including the steaming turd that was this season.

 

I admit, his first choice should have been to say nothing.

 

Prisco put it out there in a tweet. Williams responded and Prisco responded to that, at that point it became a conversation and by all accounts there were several tweets that went back and forth which to me says discussion. Look I like Peyton Manning always have but why is his retirement different than any one else's? He is a big boy and has had criticism before this. You guys are acting like he is dead. He retired, heck Heath Miller retired and I have more love for that man than I do for Manning but it didn't stop me from discussing his career and HOF worthiness that very day. Why is Williams speaking out about this last season wrong? Why is it classless to discuss the great steaming turd of a season when talking about what is a long and storied career? My god man, Manning threw for 42 yards and 4 picks and got benched in a game and anyone who tries to say it was an even average year for Manning needs to be called out on it, now not in two weeks, two months, or next year, but in the course of the conversation.

 

Why? Why is this a taboo subject? Lots of opinions on Heath Miller the day of his retirement and he is a Steeler?

 

How would you describe it? using his normal numbers as a baseline and a typical Manning performance as a measuring stick? I work with a die-hard Broncos fan and those are the terms he used to describe Mannings season and praised the fact that they had that defense. He had an injury that obvious hindered him and it is a shame that his final season was marred by such a abysmal play from one of the best QB's in the game however it happened and no amount of being courteous changes it. There have been plenty of retirements in the last months and no one got the kid gloves treatment. What is bothering people is that Williams is a Steeler and this doesn't jive with the image that many of us associate with our team. The reality is and I hate admitting it is that they are less like Miller ( silent, do his talking with his play, respectful) and more like Williams or AB or Wallace with the late hit. I mean some in this thread have said it already but would it really bother people if a member of the Raiders said it or the Texans, or Pacman Jones?