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Missed Pass Interference Call

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by burghfan58, Jan 17, 2016.

  1. burghfan58

    burghfan58 Well-Known Member

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    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the missed pass interference penalty on Talib on the 4th and 1 play. Talib didn't get his head turned around and only threw his arms in the air. Instead all you heard was "great play by Talib getting his hand in there to knock it away." Instead of turning the ball over on downs, we should have been 1st and Goal on the 1 yard line.
     
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  2. nofieldfive

    nofieldfive Well-Known Member

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    I missed it - I was too busy looking at Miller with no one within 20 yards of him.

    I don't see going to Wheaton on that - he's not a guy who is going to come down with a tight catch with 2 guys on him. if you are going for that play with the crew available I would have put it to Coates - field goal first but if you go for it then Miller wide open but certainly not Wheaton in tight coverage.

    when Ben came back in against the Bengals the one good thing was that he could not throw far - it was nice to see us get the first down on third down and then get the first down on 4th down - no swinging for the fences....keep the drive moving.
     
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  3. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    Was well talked about in the game thread. Hated that it was missed at the time, but now that the game is over I don't want to cry about the refs. We did not execute well enough to win the game.
     
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  4. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    I think I saw 2 or 3 PI's Denver committed that weren't called. The pass to Heath that he missed and it popped up in the air for a second ... he didn't catch it because the LB had him in a bear hug well before the ball got there ... that one seemed really blatant.
     
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  5. sjromano

    sjromano Well-Known Member

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    Yeah - the no call on this play was a head-scratcher. Was very similar to the one they called on Allen last week defending Green at the goal line. You gotta turn your head or you can't put your hands up like that - that's PI 101.
     
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  6. Jim90

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    He should've thrown it to the wide open Heath instead of throwing it into double coverage. Buts that's Ben for you
     
  7. johnbonham

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    You are absolutely bang on...matter of fact Talib should have been called a couple times in this contest for PI calls but ref's turned a blind eye...
    He seems to get away with way more than he should have throughout the year !

    He will face a team next weekend that ref's like to cater to.... so the ref's will have their hands full next weekend trying to figure out who to make or not make the calls for ...or against...means there will likely be a lot of referee conferences on big calls !

    GO STEELER'S..... GET BACK, GET HEALTHY, GET # 7 IN 2017 !!
     
  8. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    I'm pretty sure the refs had their hands tied behind their backs for the first 3.5 quarters whenever Denver was on the field.

    They did their job. Kept Denver in the game until momentum shifted in the 4th...
     
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  9. pastorbob

    pastorbob Well-Known Member

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    I agree, maybe I need to open an online confession-link for the Refs.
     
  10. HugeSnack

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    I'd have to look at it again, but I don't remember thinking it was bad. I thought he made contact right about when the ball got there. Maybe I missed it because I was mostly focusing on how I wished Ben would have thrown it 2 feet farther.

    I hate to sound like I'm on Talib's side, but the truth is I hate the "He didn't turn his head around" rule. Who cares? I mean, yes, that can be an indication of if he's playing the man or the ball, but even so, it should only be a penalty if he actually interferes with the guy, regardless of which way his head was facing.

    What drove me nuts was the crucial 4th and 5 at the end of the game. There's never a close shot of it, but their CB holds Sammie Coates (?) so badly you can see it from the blimp cam. There's supposed to be an official dedicated to each receiver. I don't know how he missed it.

    But as SteelCity_NB said, calls come and go, and this wasn't an egregiously badly called game. I'm sure Denver could point to one or two that should have gone their way. We lost because we didn't play well enough to have a bigger lead, and then fumbled.
     
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  11. bleednblackngold

    bleednblackngold Well-Known Member

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    Am I missing something on this play? I saw it as the ball hitting Wheaton in the chest, which should have been caught. I also didn't see PI. I'm seriously asking, not being sarcastic. I keep seeing everyone else say Ben should have just settled for 1st down to Heath, but if he threw a ball in the endzone that should have been caught, it's not on Ben.
     
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  12. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    Never turned around. Face guarded. Literally had his hand all up in Wheaton's face. I doubt Wheaton ever saw the ball. Also initiated contact prior to the ball's arrival. Granted, THAT part was bang-bang in real time. But the first 2 were enough to warrant a flag.
     
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  13. biggbunch68

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    I agree, when nbc/cbs, what ever station broadcast the game, when they showed Goofdell he looked nervous and anxious that the game was NOT going like he wanted it to . IMO
     
  14. Lizard72

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    Problem is the Steelers will continue to not get these calls and be called for it until they decide to actually do what the rest of the leagues "Good" defenses are doing. Which is, play that way all season and make the officials have to decide how many to call and when to call them! The coverage schemes they play don't have enough contact through the course of a season to make the officials hesitant to call it for the sake of slowing the game or seeming to be too involved in the outcome!

    They did the same thing the last game they played in Pittsburgh and the Seahaks make a living out of it!
     
  15. Lizard72

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    Supposedly there's no faceguarding rule anymore, but you're supposed to get your head around at least.
     
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  16. 58stillers

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    Uh yeah.... It was PI on the Bryant end zone play.... Especially considering the weak PI call on gay v Thomas a little earlier.
     

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  17. Chainmover1

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    "Also initiated contact prior to the ball's arrival."

    Absolutely. This was a no brainer flagrant foul.

    Ray D said:
    I'm pretty sure the refs had their hands tied behind their backs for the first 3.5 quarters whenever Denver was on the field.

    They did their job. Kept Denver in the game until momentum shifted in the 4th...

    I don't like to use clichés? but "Truer words were never spoken."

    But surely by now, we know what they are and have been for many years so what's new?

    Incidentally, this non call was at least 75% more egregious [just saw this word in another thread-hope it means worse] than the call on Allen last week. Allen actually never contacted the WR and also the ball hit his hand first. Like I said we know what they are for sure. Actually, just about all Cinci's points were the direct result of penalties. But they screwed up and just corrected their mistake from last week to now.

    I just wish I knew how to put those videos on You Tube. I would compile a huge list of horrendous mistakes? [one sided calls] against the Steelers over the years. Then show the same foul? committed by the opponent going conveniently unnoticed. Very strange. As Tealc from Stargate SG1 would say Indeed!

    This season alone there are a dozen or more. TBH this is not sour grapes. I frankly could care less since I did not even think this team was ready to challenge for the title this year it needs a bit of work due to some bad luck in personnel moves the past few years.

    But definitely I would not only like to rain on some other teams fans parade but piss on it. In other words here you ----- ------'s enjoy your moment of phony glory but here's how you got it. Careful now don't choke on it.:smiley1:
     
  18. RobVos

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    I don't recall thinking it was a bad call at the time.

    The only non-call I recall being upset about was on the play where the Denver defense took it to the endzone (but the play was already dead) and at least 2 Denver defenders were dancing after the play in celebration. This is the exact same call that Dupree was called for in a previous game (joining in a celebration). That would have been 15 yards back (I recall we turned it over on downs on the play) and they would not have been able to keck the FG to make it a 2 score game. Would have change the play calling on our next drive and vice getting a quick FG and needing an onside kick - could have went for the TD to tie it up.
     
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  19. harristotle

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    Turning your head around comes into play when you tackle the receiver before the ball gets there. He was draped all over him before the ball had gotten to them. Textbook pass interference.
     
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  20. 58stillers

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    Watch it live and look at the pic I have a couple posts above. Clearly looks like MB's arm was being held by the defender.... regardless of his head being turned.... that one was PI.

    Edit: Oh wait, I see now that I'm talking about a different play than the OP
     
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  21. fbsketcher

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    Many things seem to go against us all the time, and go in favor of others but what I did see was a battered group of men show up against a team that ran in first place all season and we were the first to score a touchdown, we took the lead from them and nearly won.
    I saw our leader standing strong and playing thru pain of what most people wouldnt show up to the office for a week . Guys stepping up . and although the refs have become extra players on the field for the opposing team we as the blue collar team of Pittsburgh the Steel City just about did it.

    Thanks Black and Gold for the excitement , the great plays and the thrill you provide us.

    Be ready and healthy for 2016 , ready for 7.
     
  22. Clive From PIT

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    Maybe the ref was blind from Talib poking him in the eye. (Oh yeah, I went there!)
     
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  23. HugeSnack

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    Well I just watched it again, and I completely disagree. He threw his arms up to block the ball, and almost all of the contact came after the ball arrived. He did get a hand up in his facemask, but he didn't grab it.

    That's the kind of thing that almost never gets called, and in my opinion, shouldn't be. The timing was fine. We don't need to invent bad calls. There were some real ones, and they still aren't the real reason we lost.
     
  24. JPP

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  25. Lizard72

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    That was huge, but apparently it only gets called when Gay scores...
     

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