Making a Murderer

Anyone else hooked on this Netflix series? Compelling!

 

I have several friends that rave about it, but haven't gotten the chance to watch it yet. CNN had Nancy Grace on the other day and she was whining so it must be pretty good.

 

It's the first; the first episode dropped on December 18 . I want to check this one out as well. Being a resident of WI for many years I was somewhat familiar with the case, but had no idea they were making a documentary on it. Supposedly it was filmed over 10 years.

 

I watched a thing about it the other day and they said it was very selectively edited and didn't tell the whole story. I want to watch it though but there was a WI state atty that said there's no doubt whatsoever that the guy is a murderer. The guy's nephew actually testified in a 3hr confession that they took bleach and destroyed DNA blood evidence and part of the evidence the state used against them was bleach stained jeans that he was wearing that day. Scott Walker was asked about pardoning the guy and he has a no pardon policy and has never issued one and said he won't issue one for this guy. The president can't even do it because he's only allowed to issue federal pardons and this was all a state case. I'd say the guy's gonna stay in jail regardless.

 

There's no doubt in my mind that Avery is guilty as sin! I do feel sorry for the nephew, though, who has the IQ of Pacman Jones and was manipulated to do whatever it was that he did. I will say this though, the sherrif's department, DA's office and the investigators do seem like a bunch of bumbling idiots and have compromised evidence and everything else. But in the end, I believe wholeheartedly that Steve Avery is a psychotic killer who murdered a beautiful young lady and manipulated his nephew in some way. The filmmakers definitely have an agenda!

 

Everything I've read indicates the same. Part of what makes the story an interesting one.

 

Yeah the defense attorneys have went to great lengths to smear the DA's team and apparently one of the prosecutors got in some legal trouble a few years AFTER this case and now they are trying to say that it destroys everything the guy says since he got hooked on pills later. There's a saying among lawyers that says "When you have the law pound the law. When you have the facts pound the facts. When you have neither pound the table." That sounds like what this is. I guess they are just trying to get the guy off on "procedural" grounds? I love how lawyers like to get guilty people off on technicalities. I met a defense lawyer once and asked him if he would be fine with getting a KNOWN and CONFESSED child molester off the hook on a technicality or legal loophole and he said "Absolutely I would be fine with it". I said "Would you feel ok if you could defend the terrorists from 9/11 if they had survived and got them off the hook?" He said "Absolutely. It's not my job to decide if what they do is right or wrong. Just to find a way to get them out of it." I said "That's why the majority of people think people like you are scumbags."

 

I'll give the filmmakers credit, they did a GREAT job keeping you on the hook!

This is why I could NEVER be a defense attorney!

 

Me too. I mean I understand that there is due process and the burden of proof is on the state but to get someone off on a technicality when you know they are guilty is beyond reprehensible.

 

*CONTAINS SPOILERS*

True. Getting someone off on a technicality is reprehensible but convicting someone based on planted evidence is even worse.

 

*SPOILERS*

Why? Why did Steven Avery kill her? Just an evil person?

Ignore the nephew. He is 100% innocent. His entire story was fabricated. The investogators coerced false testimony from a 16 year old with an IQ of 69.

You wouldn't be wanted for jury duty Jack hahaha! Guilty! Kill the *******! Haha.

 

That's what my wife says, haha. Guilty until proven innocent!!!

As for Avery, Google him sometime. He is an evil person. Anybody that would put gasoline on the back of the family cat and throw it into a fire is pure evil!

 

Because of this thread I went back and checked out the case. The interview from Feb 27 of Brendan Dassey (the first one) is very damning of Steven A. I had only seen the interviews done later. The initial interview I believe is truthful. The later interviews were coerced and contained false information.

I now share your opinion of Steven A's guilt.

 

I've watched a lot of interviews about this from attorneys involved at the time and I think he's guilty too. I've actually only seen a couple of episodes of the show though.

 

There are extra bits and pieces in later episodes but you have the gist of it.

I recommend the Feb 27th, 2006 interview between Dassey and investigators.

Best evidence in the trial.

To point out all Dassey's testimony was corrupted after that interview and subsequent interviews are worthless because they led Dassey towards some fictitious narrative.

http://jenniferjslate.com/2016/01/06/brendan-dassey-confession-and-trial-transcripts/

 

Great series, we were hooked too. Just a disturbing look into the legal and law enforcement processes as well without discussing spoilers lol!