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BEST ARIANS ARTICLE EVER READ & COMMENT

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by edog55, Jan 25, 2012.

  1. edog55

    edog55 Well-Known Member

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    This is the best article ever wriiten about our famous OC. It is nothing but the truth so help me God!!

    I love this part: Within 5 short seasons, Arians successfully dismantled the blue collar hard nosed running game that defined the Pittsburgh Steelers. Some of the best full backs in the league came and went, never to be replaced. Tight ends became an extension of the offensive line in the Red Zone rather than a threat. And, the bubble screen pushed out the RB screen. We could sit here all day and have an Arians vs Steelers Nation debate – but the bottom line is Arians came ‘this close’ to completely obliterating the heart and sole of the Pittsburgh Steelers. That did not sit well with Rooney. In fact, Rooney fired off a warning shot in the form of voicing that the team needed to run the ball more this season. And like a defiant teenager, Arians just kept doing his thing.

    http://nicepickcowher.com/2012/01/23/bruce-arians-a-precursor-of-things-to-come-for-the-steelers/

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  2. SteelMojo

    SteelMojo Well-Known Member

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    best full backs in the league came and went? when the hell did that happen? LMAO
     
  3. gpguy

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    That might be a little bit of a stretch...but Kreider was one of the best FBs and Kuhn has turned into a solid one also. I cant think who else might have been here.

    But as far as that quote...I think its quite fitting/correct and true. Very well put by the writer!
     
  4. SteelMojo

    SteelMojo Well-Known Member

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    Kreider was ok Kuhn IS NOT a TRUE FB
     
  5. TheWanderer

    TheWanderer Well-Known Member

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    good grief with the arians bashing. he's gone. forty-eight more threads whining about arians.

    regarding that weak article . . . "some of the best fullbacks in the league?" hysterical. where, in new hampshire, is kreider's statue? tight ends became an extension of the offensive line because the damn offensive line can't pass protect. the bubble screen replaced the rb screen because that's as long as our o-linemen can block. long enough to get a wr screen pass off and hope that our best blockers, hines and heath, can create some running room. arians "came this close to obliterating . . ." what? you mean, OTHER than the super bowl victory in two appearances in only five years? four out of five years in the playoffs? 12-4 in his final season? that's "obliterating?"

    beware the meddling owner who insists on a style of play that isn't suited to the personnel.
     
  6. D0bre Shunka

    D0bre Shunka Well-Known Member

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    I traveled a ton for work years past and I have never met an NFL fan that was happy with their team's OC in any city.

    Phenomena?
     
  7. mdbates2

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  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Exactamundo :good: When teams lose, there needs to be an outlet, often it's the OC. This will continue on with our next OC and Ben and MT. I have no problem with fans wanted to see improvement but some of you guys are seriously obsessed.
     
  9. thorn058

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    Exactamundo :good: When teams lose, there needs to be an outlet, often it's the OC. This will continue on with our next OC and Ben and MT. I have no problem with fans wanted to see improvement but some of you guys are seriously obsessed.[/quote:t9kd7e6d]

    While I agree that some of this is getting out of hand, it is just as silly to continue to point that out. Lets be honest some ppl took alot of grief over teh fire BA stuff did you really think they would go quietly when Arains was fired?
     
  10. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    While I agree that some of this is getting out of hand, it is just as silly to continue to point that out. Lets be honest some ppl took alot of grief over teh fire BA stuff did you really think they would go quietly when Arains was fired?[/quote:1jd3er1b]

    Not silly at all to point it out. People who defended him took just as much grief. Edog has about half a dozen threads on this. We've been bombarded with BA threads while he was here and now still being bombarded with BA threads. I think it's kind of silly to expect people to just sit back and watch all these threads pop up and keep quiet. And BA isn't a Steeler anymore so this isn't even in the right forum :hehehe:
     
  11. thorn058

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    While I agree that some of this is getting out of hand, it is just as silly to continue to point that out. Lets be honest some ppl took alot of grief over teh fire BA stuff did you really think they would go quietly when Arains was fired?[/quote:2ks8v4bd]

    Not silly at all to point it out. People who defended him took just as much grief. Edog has about half a dozen threads on this. We've been bombarded with BA threads while he was here and now still being bombarded with BA threads. I think it's kind of silly to expect people to just sit back and watch all these threads pop up and keep quiet. And BA isn't a Steeler anymore so this isn't even in the right forum :hehehe:[/quote:2ks8v4bd]

    True as well. My feeling on them is that if I don't comment they slowly sink off the front page or at least it is my hope.
     
  12. Blast Furnace

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    Not silly at all to point it out. People who defended him took just as much grief. Edog has about half a dozen threads on this. We've been bombarded with BA threads while he was here and now still being bombarded with BA threads. I think it's kind of silly to expect people to just sit back and watch all these threads pop up and keep quiet. And BA isn't a Steeler anymore so this isn't even in the right forum :hehehe:[/quote:3gek7gvk]

    True as well. My feeling on them is that if I don't comment they slowly sink off the front page or at least it is my hope.[/quote:3gek7gvk]

    Good point. I don't think anythings slowing edog down though, he's in his glory! :dancing:
     
  13. SteelMojo

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    this the last part X100 what does a owner know about football/coaching? NOTHING! look no further then Dallas how has that been working out? lmao we are set up for how the league is NOW a passing league! its not the 70s anymore the owner and everyone one else to get over it! :frustrated:
     
  14. TarheelFlyer

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  15. rukus4ever

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    Co-sign. It's over.
     
  16. diehardsteel

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  17. BLACKnGOLDsince72

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    Are you seriously still talking about BA ??
    :beathorse: :beathorse: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:
     
  18. Blast Furnace

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    That's who I am leaning towards for an out of house hire. I think I prefer Fichtner but would like the Hue hire as well. Still want to see more names for an out of house hire though.
     
  19. Cru Jones

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    Art Rooney II was in charge of player personnel and a scout for the Steelers when he was younger... I'm sure he knows a thing or two about football.

    Calling him meddling or comparing him to Jerry Jones is laughable. The Rooney's are a football family and they have been the most successful team since the NFL Merger. I think they know how to run a team.
     
  20. SteelMojo

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    they have been the most successful team since the NFL Merger this true but its because they hired COACHS and let said coachs COACH! saying a football owner knows what style of play is best for the team to run is like saying Paris Hilton knows how to run a hotel! its laughable
     
  21. Cru Jones

    Cru Jones Well-Known Member

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    You're right I am laughing at this.
     
  22. TheWanderer

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    and dallas is the second-most successful team. so, how's that working out for them? seems to me their organization's lack of success is riding the same downward plane that marks jones' involvement with the game-planning of the team.

    i never said ROONEY was meddling. i don't know that it's got to that point yet. i just threw out the caveat that it isn't necessarily a good thing when managment tries to get too involved. especially when they're throwing out antiquated ideas that are currently counter-cultural and REALLY don't seem to fit the identity, nor the personnel, of this current roster. so, you want a bunch of speed guys running hooks and outs while we hammer it between our awful tackles with a guy who tiptoes, hesitates, spins, and can't run between those tackles?

    drink another guiness and shout "brilliant!"
     
  23. Romans5:8

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    I have not read that Rooney has said anything to the effect that he wants to return to "old school" football. What I have read is that he wants better production, specifically in the points per game category. Arians has had five years at the reins, and with the talent we have at the skill position we should be better than 21st in scoring.

    Was the lack of production all Arians' fault? Of course not. Ben's turnovers, our offensive line, our lack of creating turnovers, etc. all contributed over those five years to our offense's overall effectiveness. But...it was five years worth of work--long enough to make a decision whether or not Arians is the man we want to move forward with.

    Rooney said that he felt it was time for a change. Personally, I agree.
     
  24. BLACKnGOLDsince72

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    :roflmao: Yea let's just hope what he REALLY meant was more production in general. If not I'll need a whole truckload of that guiness delivered to the house before opening day :hehehe:
     
  25. TheWanderer

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    well, i already played devil's advocate in another thread listing a dozen or so reasons as to why arians wasn't to blame. nobody bothered to challenge any of those points - which is very interesting. i'm not saying he was a great oc, but i don't think he is even close to what he is perceived by a lot of interesting people on this board.

    all of this talent at the skill position is what i keep hearing . . . on this board anyways. maybe we have a lot of talent but a lack of chemistry. we've got track stars at the wideout positions and a qb who can't get them the ball in a position to put points on the board. we cant' score in the red zone because we lack the right type of receivers AND quarterback to score points in tight spaces. now what?

    the people on this board want us to spread the field and throw the ball all over the place while we lack a system quarterback. apparently, the owner wants us to keep it on the ground and grind out tough yards and control the ball - while we lack a good o-line and power running back.
     

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