Would you want Munchak to be the Steelers HC?

I think whenever we ask ourselves about changing HC we need to remember the most important thing: The Pittsburgh Steelers DO NOT FIRE Head Coaches, so Mike Tomlin is going to have to do something pretty spectacular to get fired.

For as long as Mike Tomlin keeps up his 'never having a losing season' record, he will be safe in his job.

As for Munchak, I can't see it happening. It's not as if he set the world on fire in Tennessee and was unlucky to lose his job. 22-26 speaks for itself

 

The Steelers don't fire head coaches...yet. There's a first time for everything. Art has shown that he can break away from the old Steelers mold. I doubt that he would fire Tomlin though.

 

I'd look at Munchak as OC first before promoting him to HC. I think we should hope Munchak stays in the organization.

 

If we part ways with Tomlin I would be pretty excited for a Munchak takeover. I think he's a quality HC that got booted out of Nashville for having the gumption to stand up for his assistants. What Tennessee does shouldn't impact our decisions. 22-26 in Tennessee is a lot better than 2-80, or whatever Whiz was.

I would not abandon Tomlin unless he puts together a couple of real stinkers. Everybody's definition of stinker is different, but to me, he hasn't had one yet.

 

All 3 of their last HC hires were from outside the organization. None were head coaches elsewhere before. They've done well finding good young up and coming assistants to fill those jobs. Munchak doesn't fit that profile.
I suppose anthing is possible, but it's more likely Munchak leaves to be a co-ordinaters elsewhere, or replaces Haley if he should leave to be a HC, tha replaces Tomlin.

 

munch=O-line. bring back munch's johnson and he'll be happy.

 

Not sure if I'd like Munchak as HC or not. It's so hard to tell because so many variables are different.

To your point Blast,

In 2011 Tenn had 6.5 penalties per game. Good for 19th
2012 they had 6.6, good for 24th.
2013 they had 6.3, good for 20th.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/penalties-per-game?date=2014-02-02

At the very least, I feel the front office needs to confront Tomlin on the issues he needs to correct and/or strengthen. This may have been done in the past, but the time management issues seem to persist so either they haven't talked or he isn't getting any better in these areas.

 

I have a hard Time thinking that Tomlin doesn't get talked to about the need to fix "issues" of any sort, but in today's society with media spin and social chatter maybe the Rooney crew don't want the possible bad p.r. I don't know, but he needs to improve the team in some areas as well as improving some of his kinks.

Or maybe, he is who he is and to redefine himself would cause chaos in the locker room. Too many variables there especially with the "attitudes" of modern day athletes.

Munchak has done a tremendous job with the line and should be doing so as it's to his pedigree. In the same spirit, Tomlin was supposed to be a DB and defensive guru... I for one haven't seen him make an impression in that department and was hoping for as much especially with Lebeau gone.

We can say as we have in the past regarding Lebeau that Tomlin just don't have the horses etc...
However, he's ran off almost every horse he's drafted in the secondary and refuses to "turn over stones" with maybe shifting around personnel or yanking the boys who aren't cutting the mustard. Again he is really lacking in the portion of the team that he's supposedly best suited at finessing.

I have a like/hate relationship with Tomlin just as I did with Cowher but unfortunately neither sit across from my desk or any of the rest of us up and down fans.

So I guess, here's to hoping that he can get himself and the team to quit spitting in the wind

 

I think you make some good points, but don't know if Munchak is the guy or not (I've never followed Tennessee very closely to speak about his effect there). I do think he'd make a solid candidate, and it would be nice to have the discipline he's brought the the OL expanded to the entire team. One of my gripes with Tomlin's tenure has been the propensity for generally sloppy play.

I guess what it comes down to what you see as Tomlin's value to the team - I think of it like baseball's WAR statistic: how many wins over an average coaching replacement does he give us? Of course, given that even the sabermetrics of baseball have yet to procure a formula for managerial WAR, this amounts to little more than personal opinion. Personally, there's a part of me that would almost prefer to see a less talented team play harder, smarter, and more efficiently than a more talented one who does not. So I'd be eyeing and evaluating the field quietly in the background just in case a ringer of came along; I think Munchak would warrent further consideration. JMO

 

Why settle, we are the Steelers. What coach wouldn't want that job?

 

Hell no, Munchak was average with the Titans. Did he ever make the playoffs as a HC?

 

I wonder what the numbers look like for Cowher when he had Erhardt and Wiz to bounce ideas off. Rmember his call for the surprise onside in SB XXX? or telling Wiz they can't put the handcuffs on Ben. I know Tomlin interacts but even now with 9 years under his belt how much does he discuss with his staff during a game.

 

My buddy is a die hard Titans fan and when we got Munchak he thanked me for taking him off their hands. I like Munch but I don't know that he'd make us a good coach. Also Russ Grimm was a great line guy and the Steelers chose Tomlin over him so I don't even know if they'd consider Munchak. I say when Tomlin goes that they will again bring in some unproven commodity and not some big name guy. Who knows though because by then Art 2 will probably be in complete control without Dan to advise him?

 

Yeah I mean people are harder on their coaches than is sometimes reasonable. I sent TTF a pm last week about how crazy the Packers fans were on their forums after that loss on Thanksgiving. I mean dude they were posting stuff that people would get banned for forever here. They were demanding the team trade Rodgers and immediately fire McCarthy. The reason I found it so hilarious is because most of the time when we have the "If not Tomlin then who?" discussion it is generally McCarthy that people seem to like. The irony is if the Packers forum had an "If not McCarthy then who?" thread they would probably mostly say Tomlin! LOL!!! Mark it dude!

 

Munchak did a pretty good job as head coach of the Titans, he was let go after 3 years, he went 9-7 his first year 2011, followed up by a 6-10 record in 2012 and a 7-9 in 2013, look what whisenhunt did as his replacement and the difference in head coaching is pretty obvious, whiz went 3-20 during his short 2 year gig, obviously the titans problems were deeper than anyone thought, and I believe munchak took a very average team and won with them and if he had been given more time he could have turned the corner with them, but the problems they had stemmed from the management and poor drafting more than the HCs.....I wouldnt have any problem with making munchak the HC here......

 

^^^^ this. Haley may get some HC offers in the offseason. Munchak would be a damn good OC, IMO. Head coach... not so much.