If you had gotten your way...

Okay, one thing I totally 100 per cent disagree with above. Javis Jones contributes as much or more than Eifiert.! You are kidding right. And you don't have to go into your long 5 paragraph answered to this, because I know what I see and on this i cannot be convinced.

 

I wanted this Team to draft Taylor Mays ...He has never really turned the corner , but he is still hanging around the NFL .... Also another kid was Brian Quick he was looking real good and is now just a healthy scratch.I am not sure what is going on with that....

 

I don't know about that more like if we had Boswell instead of scbooie doobie do we would be 8-1......

 

Mays has a total of 76 tackles and zero interceptions in six years, and only 9 tackles this year in 8 games once again with zero picks, all I can say is i'm glad we didnt draft him, he's the most under performing player in the NFL and like the bengals coach lewis said about him before he cut him "He is always out of position on plays"

 

Yep me to I am very glad we didn't draft him as well, but I was all about drafting him. After watching him play and watching Shamarko play they are both very similar . Neither of them can grasp the position from the neck up and both have plenty of physical tools ....

The Team needs to invest in that simulator they are using for QB'S and take that to the Combine to test the DB'S ...We need guys who can recognize and dissect plays not guys always out of position.....

 

I really wanted Gabe Carimi in 2011. He's now unemployed.

I was shocked when Cam dropped to our pick.

 

I didn't say Jarvis offers more for us than Eifert offers the Bengals. I said Jarvis offers as much or more for us than Eifert would if he'd been drafted by the Steelers instead... Because he'd be squarely behind Heath and battling Spaeth for playing time. The absolute soonest he'd take over for Heath would be his 4th year, and probably not even then. It was just too soon to draft a tight end.

 

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Okay, I'll accept that, but I think a good coach would have found a way to play 2 tight end sets with Heath and Eifert. Can you of imagined how tough that would of be to defend. Passing downs would be Brown, Bryant, Heath and Eifert. Wheaton?

 

I wanted them to draft Justin Gilbert last season, good thing the Browns drafted him instead he's a major bust. But I was all for them drafting Bell in the second round.

 

I completely agree. But we're not talking about a theoretical good coach, we're talking about the ones the Steelers have. These are the guys that wanted to continue starting Michael Vick, even if it meant averaging 1 passing yard per quarter. They wouldn't have changed systems, and they have NO problem sitting young, superior talent on the bench.

 

Spaeth isn't out there to catch TDs, he's out there to run block. In that sense, Eifert doesn't hold a candle to Spaeth.

Eifert would be competing with Miller first, and the receivers second. And we have some great receivers, and the system favors them, not the #2 TE.

 

Just as bad that we had Len Dawson and Johnny Unitas and released both of them.

 

Wasn't Pope here the year Eifert was drafted and Spaeth was signed the following year? That would be a tough line up to crack considering how much Haley pushed Pope onto the field.

 

I know you'd make that sacrifice, and so would a ton of other people. I'd be all about a 2 TE system with the right guys. But I really think the team wouldn't be willing to change that much. I, for one, am thankful they at least were aware of that and didn't use a draft pick on a guy they'd later refuse to play, like Dri Archer or Brandon Boykin.

 

I'm still scratching my head over Boykin dude.

 

It's easy to play the what if game. In all honesty tho if we pick Eifert, it changes the entire rest of the draft for us. Maybe we force pass rusher because of a perceived need in round 2 and miss out on Bell. Or do so the next year and miss Shazier, Tuitt, or Bryant.

You'll never know what would have happened if we took Eifert. I really like him as a player, and actually thought that is who we were going to take... But we almost certainly would have picked other players in the other rounds had we gone Eifert instead of JJ.

 

It's not too late to have the TE position set for the foreseeable future. Heath ain't done yet. Jesse James might turn out to be the successor. If he's not, we still have a year or two to get a guy. I don't think it's the type of position that needs years of grooming, if you pick one high. In my opinion it's not ideal to have an overlap from mentor to protege the length of a whole rookie contract. If we're going to draft a stud TE in round 1, I'd rather do it the year we need him, or one year before, and use all the picks prior elsewhere. Otherwise it's like drafting a 27 year old and having to pay him a crapload right out of the gate.

 

Yeah Mays is another guy that I really liked coming out and am glad now that we didn't draft him. Hard to find that combination of size and athletic ability.

Jarvis Moss is another. Was supposed to be the next Jevon Kearse but never panned out.

 

I know who I'd rather have. Also don't think JJ ever goes on to realize his potential, because I don't think he can, but will give him the remaining 6 games because he is a no. 1 pick. Now Shazier and Dupree that's a different story as you can see their potential.

 

He really got some great penetration a few times yesterday and really bull rushed well. He also is good at recovering fumbles. I still don't foresee him going down as one of our greats when it's all said and done. If I'm being totally honest, that's my position.