I don't buy it.

I don't think these games are fixed but I for sure think the refs let other teams get away with things that we would not be allowed to. Did anyone else notice the helmet to helmet hit on wallace that went uncalled. You can bet your ass if that were clark or harrison it would be flagged and fined.

 

Oh i noticed the hit, and was not surprised one bit it wasnt called. Remember when Heath Miller was almost killed in that ravens game last year, no flag then either. But Harrison levels Massaqoui a.d the refs couldnt wait to toss a flag, makes me sick

 

This is what I am saying^^^. Goodell has the rules so screwed up that the refs are confused, the players are confused and so are the fans. If you're gonna have sissy rules for football, enforce them fairly. If you don't it makes the league look suspect. That's all I'm saying...

 

It's a little ridiculous that some of you guys cry foul over missed or bad calls but you completely forget about the other side of things. That "pass" to Wallace from Ben was a fumble. Denver recovered it and that probably would have resulted in more Denver points and an even bigger lead, likely putting the game out of reach and not allowing us to ever even tie it up. The refs blew that one bad and that directly could have changed the game. When you guys are blaming the refs for this Steelers loss, remember that if it wasn't for the refs, we likely never would have even tied it up.

We lost, period. Tebow beat us, not Goodell and not the refs.

 

I agree with you. It used to be that you kinda suspected this was going on. Now you have to try real hard not to see it.

 

There are only 4 people who have to be involved in order for the fix to be in. The players don't have to know anyghing about it. All you need are the owner, the head coach, the offensive coordinator and the defensive coordinator.

 

So you think Rooney, Tomlin, BA and DL all agreed to throw this game so Tebow could win? Really, you think they actually agreed to this? You guys are nuts.

 

No, the Steelers threw a game to maximize the profits for the nfl as a whole. Orders might have come down from nfl upper echelons.

 

Not so Tebow could win. But so the nfl could rake in the most green through tv viewership. If you look at it from a purely financial viewpoint it becomes really obvious.

 

I'll give you the same advice I give to other 'conspiracists'. Since it's clear to you that King Godell is fixing the thing, and it apparently ain't clear to Las Vegas, take advantage of it. Profit from your gifted insight of the 'done deal'. Since it was clear 'they' wanted a Tebow - Brady match up, you could bet the Money line taking Den to win and made a fortune.

 

Not so Tebow could win. But so the nfl could rake in the most green through tv viewership. If you look at it from a purely financial viewpoint it becomes really obvious.[/quote:2gfqhfbb]

It's really obvious is it? There's a lot of talk about Tebow, but where is the proof that all the Tebow talk translates into TV ratings? Prove to me that Tebow gets significantly better ratings than the Steelers do. After all, the Steelers are considered one of the most popular and followed teams in the league. How do you know that a Steelers/Pats matchup wouldn't result in more money for the league than a Tebow/Pats matchup?

 

"It's really obvious is it? There's a lot of talk about Tebow, but where is the proof that all the Tebow talk translates into TV ratings? Prove to me that Tebow gets significantly better ratings than the Steelers do. After all, the Steelers are considered one of the most popular and followed teams in the league. How do you know that a Steelers/Pats matchup wouldn't result in more money for the league than a Tebow/Pats matchup?"

Don't have proof, just have evidence. The networks are doing all they can to generate human interest in Tebow. The significant number of announcers that show obvious bias against the Steelers. The officials making calls against the Steelers but not making calls in favor of the Steelers for the same infractions. Steeler players getting suspended but not players on other teams who are guilty of the same or worse offenses. There's a ton of evidence, all circumstantial, adding up to the fact that the league doesn't like the Steelers in the big game. There's gotta be a reason for that. I say it has to be money. Those are all facts. If you don't think that they're based on money then let's hear your theory.

 

Every sport is fixed. The players dont have to be involved only the officials. THE NFL dont want more people joing steelers fanbase and wud like to spread out the fanbase so they cud make as much as possible cuz then wed be the NY Yankees of football. Illegal formation ? No call ? Now its not illegal ? Its like why even bring it up in the first place if it was legal, theyre trying to rub in this loss as much as possible and imagine all the $$$ they just made over Tebow merchandise due to this big win. The upset was predictable as soon as the Giants beat the Falcons as theyre had not been a upset yet and if u look at the track history. Every round of the playoffs almost every year has atleast one upset, so it was obvious to me the Broncos wud take it. Then I thought maybe well win but then Tebow hit thomas for 80 and a td.

 

It's really obvious is it? There's a lot of talk about Tebow, but where is the proof that all the Tebow talk translates into TV ratings? Prove to me that Tebow gets significantly better ratings than the Steelers do. After all, the Steelers are considered one of the most popular and followed teams in the league. How do you know that a Steelers/Pats matchup wouldn't result in more money for the league than a Tebow/Pats matchup?[/quote:2oxmszyx]

I've just been having fun with all of this - just so that you know.

However - using your argument, YES - the Tebow talk translates into TV Ratings. I was listening to an interview today with one of the hosts on the NFL network. He said that the Steelers-Denver game was one of the highest rated Wildcard round games ever. AND - he said that the ratings for the NFL network have been higher than ever since Sunday night. So, yes - the Tebow crap does turn into ratings.

That being said - I'm STILL stuck on Farrior's wink!! What the heck was that all about?? What did he know that we didn't??!!!

 

I've just been having fun with all of this - just so that you know.

However - using your argument, YES - the Tebow talk translates into TV Ratings. I was listening to an interview today with one of the hosts on the NFL network. He said that the Steelers-Denver game was one of the highest rated Wildcard round games ever. AND - he said that the ratings for the NFL network have been higher than ever since Sunday night. So, yes - the Tebow crap does turn into ratings.

That being said - I'm STILL stuck on Farrior's wink!! What the heck was that all about?? What did he know that we didn't??!!![/quote:3ntnzcwb]

Maybe he was just winking at a friend he has on the other team. Could be anything, but I'm sure at the same time, it's also nothing. There's no conspiracy theory to have the Steelers lose. Even if the league tried to do that, someone would eventually open their mouth and blow the whole thing up, and that would destroy the NFL for a long, long time, not to mention there would be several lawsuits.

 

Once the Broncos are out of the playoffs the story lines will be dominated with who's left and Super Bowl talk and all the talk about that game will fade away.

 

I've just been having fun with all of this - just so that you know.

However - using your argument, YES - the Tebow talk translates into TV Ratings. I was listening to an interview today with one of the hosts on the NFL network. He said that the Steelers-Denver game was one of the highest rated Wildcard round games ever. AND - he said that the ratings for the NFL network have been higher than ever since Sunday night. So, yes - the Tebow crap does turn into ratings.

That being said - I'm STILL stuck on Farrior's wink!! What the heck was that all about?? What did he know that we didn't??!!![/quote:3o6utxj8]

Maybe he was just winking at a friend he has on the other team. Could be anything, but I'm sure at the same time, it's also nothing. There's no conspiracy theory to have the Steelers lose. Even if the league tried to do that, someone would eventually open their mouth and blow the whole thing up, and that would destroy the NFL for a long, long time, not to mention there would be several lawsuits.[/quote:3o6utxj8]
Awwww come on. It's much more fun to speculate much more sinister motives!! It's the off-season after all.

 

"Really? You actually believe this or just having fun with us?"

You can put this in the bank. EVERY organization becomes corrupt when a certain amount of money is involved. The nfl and the networks have absolutely no checks and balances to guard against this.

Do I believe it? Yes and no.

As a lifelong Steeler fan like the rest of you, emotionally I don't want to believe it.

As a retired engineer after 30 years, the evidence certainly implies the truth and it's getting stronger all of the time.

As a lifelong student of human nature I know it's true.

 

Nah the Lions just fell down. They did get the crappy end of several calls/no-calls, but, in the end, it was just Matthew Stafford & Calvin Johnson vs. the Saints. Lol

 

I like your argument, here, and I feel the same way. Organizations that are built for the purpose of amassing wealth push all other goals to a secondary, or even tertiary, level of priority.

I always go back to the quote of the character, Gloria, in the movie "White Men Can't Jump": " 'Winning and Losing' is one big, organic globule from which one extracts what one needs."

I say this... Could the fix be on, yes. I think that it isn't a wholesale fix... people will exert influence to try to direct the outcome, but that doesn't guarantee it. Also, we can't definitively prove it, so I just move on, and don't stress it.

The Steelers just got beat.

 

It is a real statement on the human mind that some people find it easier to believe that the whole competitive nature of a sport (involving thousands of people) is a sham rather than believe that their team had a bad day and lost to an inferior team.

 

"I think I'll keep my money out of that bank. If you really believe this then you should bet every cent you have on Denver to win the SB, the fix is in"

You might advocate that but that would be stupid. The fix was to keep the Steelers out of the sb and that was done. Doesn't say who is gonna get in. But it will be based on money.