Goodell on Bell's appeal

Interesting story.
http://m.bleacherreport.com/article...nd-comments-on-steelers-rbs-suspension-appeal

 

You know I'm not one to start crying unfair over this and that but the wheels on this are moving really slow. The incident happened at the beginning of last season, punishment wasn't dished out to after the season and the Guy in charge of the league has no idea about the state of the appeal, meanwhile Brady's appeal is rushed through and now they are waiting until the whole thing blows over so they can announce his suspension is lifted. I'm crying foul on this one. THat last part I totally made up but it could happen.

 

Just taking the pulse of the new board here. Does anyone else happen to share the same frothing, undying hatred for that scumbag that I do? Just curious.

 

Oh absolutely. I mean the guy hasn't won a Super Bowl without cheating.

 

Thanks Bobby I was unsure if he was referring to Brady(scumbag is about as light as I would go) or Goodell( really don't think about him that much except to say that he needs to cut ties with Kraft) so I will go with YES!

 

Screw them both but there is a special place in football hell for Goodell. He makes it up as he goes and has really pussified the game. He has change the game in a bad way. Football is a game of COLLISION! A WR shouldn't have to think about where is the ball carrier and which way is the play going in order to block someone down field. Sorry but sometimes a qb is going to get hit in the head with a hand an arm something. You want to get rid of helmet to helmet with a qb fine that's an easy change that doesn't really change anything. While I'm on the subject a WR jumping up, landing, or bracing for a hit is going to get hit helmet to helmet sometimes. These guys are flying around the football field with the intent to hit someone. Now if they want to enforce the targeting where it is clearly the defensive players intent to go helmet to helmet fine but sometimes there's no helping it on bang bang plays. What a running back has to be careful when outside the tackle box that if he lowers his shoulder he better not hit the defender with his helmet. I honestly can't think of one positive impact he has had on the league other hen making the owners more money v

 

Lol, I was actually referring to Goodell, but since you mentioned it, yes I also despise Tom Brady, Bill Bellicheat and everything that comes out of Foxborough with a living passion. They are scum who continuously get away with murder. It sure doesn't hurt that their owner is best buds with the Commish.

 

Amen and amen. Nicely summed up. I can't count the times I about went through the roof a few years ago on all those BS roughing calls that were nothing other than tackles. It got bad there for awhile.

In fact right off the top of my head I'll tell you the one that pissed me off more than any other. Raiders Game, not long after Goodell and the owners started all this pansy crap and the refs were calling penalties on EVERYTHING because they were told to so the point could be made. It was either Harrison or Woodley I think got flagged on a perfect textbook tackle on the QB ( I wanna say it was Jason Campbell for some reason), which was literally a split second after he released the ball so I knew it couldn't be a late hit. Then the ref's explanation came over the microphone, "Personal Foul - Landing with Full Body Weight on the Quarterback". When those words actually came out of his mouth, my jaw literally dropped. My next move was to curse like a sailor and walk out of the house. Never heard or seen anything like it. That was the moment when it hit me that football as I knew it was over and never coming back. That still burns me up to think about it. Honest opinion, I think the ref threw a garbage flag just out of a kneejerk reaction and he knew it. Then he panicked and had to come up with something on the spot and came up with that BS.

For a pretty long period there when all that crap was first happening with those constant flags for tackling basically, I quit watching all football except for Steeler games. I couldn't take it. I have since come to understand that it ain't coming back so I just have to deal with it. I still friggin' hate Roger Goodell with all my heart though and think he shoulders a lot of the blame for this. I know the owners have a hand in it to and he's their puppet, but I can't take the sight of his arrogant face. I love it that he still gets booed every year at the draft.

 

Yeah, how is it that he heard Brady's appeal, but knows nothing of Bell's?

 

My memory is fading also only because I am drastically losing interest in the NFL due to the Gooddell/Kraft/Belicheat/Brady/Anti Steelers shenanigans that have been happening in the league but I do believe that was another Harrison clean hit moment that was flagged. Gooddell really has handcuffed the league overall and it sure isn't the game that I was so in tuned with during my youth. If it weren't for joining a FF league I really wouldn't give 2 minutes of my day to any other game except the Steelers. Sadly, they may be falling from my radar soon also due to blood pressure health concerns. And I'm relatively healthy.

 

Who remembers in new Orleans when Harrison had a text book tackle on Brees and got fined.

 

You know I liked the way they were heading with Troy Vincent taking charge or fines and discipline and outlining why such action was taken, very similar to what the NHL is doing by breaking every thing down, showing video evidence with multiple angles, and taking into account similar infractions and placing it in video form on the league website. I hope Goodell continues to stay out of it and allows this to continue to develop. One of the things I was upset about when it happened was the fines against Harrison in that Browns game. They didn't address each hit as an individual infraction like they should have since all of them were different hits to different players(RB,QB,WR) in different situations. Instead they lumped it all together and said it was a pattern which is was only in so much as they were all hits. Harrison will never get a fair shake based on reputation alone hence the whole putting his hands up when he sacks a QB.

 

Don't believe Goodell is actually handling Bell's appeal personally. Which is even more crazy as there's a whole department assigned to player discipline. The only thing I can think of is that Bell's folks are delaying it to see how the Brady appeal comes out.

 

I do. Cost me a TV

 

Got more than fined, as I remember, he got suspended for one game, didn't he?

 

Yeah, part of it is life happening, but a lot of it has to do with just plain losing interest in the professional sport. It's been a slow drain, but a drain nonetheless, but this may be the first year I don't even watch most Steelers games live. Oh I'll probably tune in on a Sunday or Monday night game for a bit, but the days of dedicating 6+ hours of perfect fall Sunday's to watching the NFL is over for me. This is probably the year I check out the NFL Replay feature.

As for Brady getting his stuff handled before Bell's.... But really who expected anything different?

 

I still watch every game but its not like it used to be. I used to wake up like every Sunday was Christmas morning and now its like OK football is on today. I still get excited for the big games though but even when I was at home it used to be like a tailgate for every game not just the big ones.

 

Now I am confused. We went from discussing Gooddell to Brady and now to the ratbirds lol

 

Oh yeah me too. I would be fired up as soon as I woke up on game day and could barely contain myself waiting for the game to start. During the game I was nuts....yelling, jumping up and down, etc. As you said, now I still look forward to the games, but I am nowhere near as invested in them the way I was 8 or 10 years ago. I stay mostly calm throughout unless a BS roughing of personal foul is called on EITHER team. The losses still hurt some but nothing like they used to. I felt like I lived and died with every Sunday's outcome. I don't know if that is just a product of me getting older and having different priorities or from me just feeling alienated and separated from the new NFL that Goodell has helped create. I'm honestly not sure, but it bums me out a little.

 

Goodell sucks and Brady sucks. Hate them both for different reasons. Goodell I honestly don't believe he has a clue on how to run a business. It seems he is just making up policy and procedures on the fly based on public opinion. Peter King suggested they table the Brady suspension so they can do a whole year of testing about the footballs and PSI to make sure they get it correct. REALLY??? How about come out, and stand behind your convictions Roger. He is guilty of at least bending the rules. He got caught. Reduce the suspension but don't roll over just because ESPN and Kraft want you to. I am really sick and tired of Brady and his agenda. He has zero reason to be talking to those locker room attendants about that kind of stuff. If there is smoke there is fire even if you can't 100% prove there are flames...

 

The only good thing about Brady and Kraft turning this into a dog and pony show and a circus, is that they are tarnishing their legacy way worse than the allegations themselves. 90% of America already knows they are guilty. Their continuous shenanigans only make them look like pompous, self righteous, jerks who are guilty but refuse to admit it. I think down the road it will come back to haunt them in terms of how their legacy is viewed by the masses as opposed to just taking their medicine. You know, the way that the other 31 teams probably would have done if THEY were caught.

Now that they have shown the ability to keep lying in the face on hard evidence, combine that and with Spygate and everything else and people start wondering how many other cheating tactics they have been covering up over the past decade. My money would be on a pretty sizable number.

 

I don't want to feel this way trust me. I am really hoping that my optimism and excitement comes back a little more and maybe it will. Perhaps seeing the league go downhill for a few years scared me into thinking that it was going to spiral down until football wouldn't even resemble a contact sport within a decade.

I'll tell you, these concussion lawsuits scared the hell out of me too, in terms of what it was going to do to the sport. On all levels form High School up through the NFL, all of a sudden people seemed to discover that football could be dangerous with the advances in modern science. That seemed strange to me because when I played as a high school kid with no education at all on the subject, I still knew that taking repeated shots to the head was not healthy and could have lasting effects. I chose to play regardless of the fact. If I developed problems down the road form playing the game (And who knows, maybe I already have and never equated it to getting my bell rung too much 20 years ago), it certainly would never even occur to me to hold somebody else either financially or morally responsible for me choosing to participate voluntarily in something that I knew involved a great deal of physical contact and abuse to the body. It's what I signed up for.

It amazes me that people apparently never considered it before and decided to hold the sport, the leagues, the coaches responsible or act as though they were FORCED to play with no idea that there could be problems. In my mind, in the future, I saw people running away from the sport at the lowest levels and in 10 years, football being viewed in the future as almost a daredevil activity that only crazy people would do. I don't know, it doesn't seem like it's going to be that bad now that a few years have passed I suppose.

I guess I said all that to say that hopefully now that the initial push from the league about trying to take hard hits out of the game seems to have died down and the complete panic over head injuries has seemed to lessen, maybe I will be able to enjoy watching more like I used to and get invested again. I'm really, really hoping for that.

 

my God even 20 years ago or 30 or 40 years they knew head shots were not good for a person. it's just a copout to say this is just because of modern medicine or modern science. it's all about lawyers and money. everyone who played knew there was a chance to get knocked out or get injured playing the game. it's not a new revelation. we did it to get cheerleaders attention.