Did Mike Tomlin take Dan or Art Rooney seriously?

I'm not calling for Tomlins firing by any stretch but when the Rooney told him back in early 2010 that they need to concentrate on running the ball more, the long term results did not seem to reflect that meeting. Maybe short term it did but in the long run they went straight back to being a pass first team. In this case I would emphasize that BA ball did not get the results that the Steelers were looking for and I would stress to Tomlin that he better make changes within the OC position.

 

I'm sure he did take Rooney seriously and I'm also sure Rooney will consider the fact that his team had a revolving door for an offensive line most of the season which had a major impact on the efficiency of the running game. As a result Rooney will do what he's always done and that's weigh all of the factors using good common sense logic and make a decision accordingly regarding BA's future with the team. I think it's funny that people keep bringing up the suggestion that Tomlin and BA simply ignored the boss's wishes about running the ball. I also think it's a pretty good assumption that if Art Rooney really felt that his wishes were being ignored then he wouldn't hesitate to do something about it. He didn't get to where he's at by being soft in the decision making department.

 

To me, and I'm no expert but it seems run blocking is more natural to an OlIneman than Pass Protection. BA simply abandoned the run at the most inopportune times during the season. Passed 44 times VS. 17 Runs against the 2nd worst rushing D in the league. It's just not Arians or Bens style to run the ball. Tomlin did not gameplan for it and Arians just went with the Ben \ BA philosophy. When they did run the ball most of the season it was in a single back formation about 80% of the time. If the line was so banged up then put a fullback in there. There was a wing back formation in the playoff game and that was the first I seen it all season long. I guess he was saving those tricky surpirses for the playoffs.

 

He "got to where he's at" by being the son of Dan Rooney who got to where he's at by being the son of Art Sr. Do you honestly think he's there based on football decisions he's made? C'mon man!

 

I'm really just so sick and tired of everyone blaming the OL for this offenses shortcomings,There are ways to gameplan around our so called obvious weakness. We for some reason decide not to and continue to make this offense try to execute to their weakness. If the OL is so bad why dont we run the ball more. Judging by Redmans' performance on Sunday we could if we so choose,but we don't. If the OL is so terrible at pass blocking ,why do we go with a single back or empty backfield so often? The proper use of formations would help the OL immensely.The problems are easy to fix but we just continue to seek the big play and that makes our OLs job harder ,not easier.There are so many factors that contribute to the OLs erratic peformances.You need to put our guys in a position to succeed, not set them up to fail and thats exactly what we do.

 

Max? It is nice to see you on the message board big guy!

 

Maybe when the Rooneys said we need to run more, BA listened. Thats where the WR bubble screens come in. lol

 

Yes I do. Maybe you're not aware but for years before Art was handed the team he was the attorney directly involved with negotiating player contracts so I'd say he's made some pretty good and difficult decisions over the years and regardless of who his old man was if he wasn't competent he wouldn't be in the job. LOL back at ya man

 

I'm sure he did take Rooney seriously and I'm also sure Rooney will consider the fact that his team had a revolving door for an offensive line most of the season which had a major impact on the efficiency of the running game. As a result Rooney will do what he's always done and that's weigh all of the factors using good common sense logic and make a decision accordingly regarding BA's future with the team. I think it's funny that people keep bringing up the suggestion that Tomlin and BA simply ignored the boss's wishes about running the ball. I also think it's a pretty good assumption that if Art Rooney really felt that his wishes were being ignored then he wouldn't hesitate to do something about it. He didn't get to where he's at by being soft in the decision making department.[/quote]


He "got to where he's at" by being the son of Dan Rooney who got to where he's at by being the son of Art Sr. Do you honestly think he's there based on football decisions he's made? C'mon man! [/quote]

Yes I do. Maybe you're not aware but for years before Art was handed the team he was the attorney directly involved with negotiating player contracts so I'd say he's made some pretty good and difficult decisions over the years and regardless of who his old man was if he wasn't competent he wouldn't be in the job. LOL back at ya man [/quote]

Hey I'm not saying he's not a smart guy, but "how he got to where he's at" is his bloodline.

 

We ended up 12 and 5. You think Rooney is upset?

 

You think he's happy after getting bounced in the first round of the payoffs? To an 8 - 8 team no less who struggled all year scoring points? Yes, I think he's upset and if you owned a football team who did that poorly you would be too. Tell me coastal, how did you celebrate Sunday night's game?? :swordsman:

 

Pissed off like everyone else. We still got beat though

 

ART II : Mike, A couple of years ago I mentioned that I thought we should run the more, this really hasn't happened.

COACH T: Well, since then we went to the SB and have had two 12-4 seasons in a row, something that only happened once before in team history. Do you really want me to change things?

 

i would like to see him fired i blame him for thsi season it goes back to playing ben in the 49ers game he needs to show ben who the boss is and if he cant do that he shouldnt have a job

 

He "got to where he's at" by being the son of Dan Rooney who got to where he's at by being the son of Art Sr. Do you honestly think he's there based on football decisions he's made? C'mon man! [/quote]

Yes I do. Maybe you're not aware but for years before Art was handed the team he was the attorney directly involved with negotiating player contracts so I'd say he's made some pretty good and difficult decisions over the years and regardless of who his old man was if he wasn't competent he wouldn't be in the job. LOL back at ya man [/quote]

Hey I'm not saying he's not a smart guy, but "how he got to where he's at" is his bloodline. [/quote]

Okay. I just thought you were trying to be a smartass

 

Yay!!! A FIRE THE ROONEYS Thread! It had to come at some point!!

 

The Rooneys never said they should run the ball more, they said more effectively. It's all about situational play calling.

 

From a business perspective he might be. Now correct me if I am wrong but hosting a playoff game or games means that stadium and ticket revenue goes directly to the team and isn't part of the NFL communal money. This is why some owners like Jerry Jones builds his monuments to consumerism so if they get to host some playoff games in his 120,000 seat stadium he makes a ton of money.

 

The only way Rooney wouldn't be upset is if his goal was to just make the playoffs. This team fell well short of their potential and there is no doubt in my mind that Rooney is upset.

 

He "got to where he's at" by being the son of Dan Rooney who got to where he's at by being the son of Art Sr. Do you honestly think he's there based on football decisions he's made? C'mon man! [/quote]

Yes I do. Maybe you're not aware but for years before Art was handed the team he was the attorney directly involved with negotiating player contracts so I'd say he's made some pretty good and difficult decisions over the years and regardless of who his old man was if he wasn't competent he wouldn't be in the job. LOL back at ya man [/quote]

Hey I'm not saying he's not a smart guy, but "how he got to where he's at" is his bloodline. [/quote]

Okay. I just thought you were trying to be a smartass [/quote]

Me? A smartass? No of course not. I wouldn't think of such a thing!

 

Steelers need to be more effective and committed to the running game. Ben will be more effective with the play action which is one thing he did well. He probably would be healthier also with less attempts.

 

O.K. Here's the solution to all of our problems. We should just switch teams with the Clowns. Let Lerner & Company along with coaching staff AND players just come to Pittsburgh and the Rooneys, Tomlin, Arians, LeBeau and the gang head off to Stains-town. A wholesale change is definitely needed by this team so we may as well go full-boat! Maybe that's what it will take for people to realize just how spoiled we are to have the best football family running this team and a darned good coaching staff. 40 years people. 40 years of dominance. There's not another city in the league that wouldn't take that record.

 

Yes I do. Maybe you're not aware but for years before Art was handed the team he was the attorney directly involved with negotiating player contracts so I'd say he's made some pretty good and difficult decisions over the years and regardless of who his old man was if he wasn't competent he wouldn't be in the job. LOL back at ya man [/quote]

Hey I'm not saying he's not a smart guy, but "how he got to where he's at" is his bloodline. [/quote]

Okay. I just thought you were trying to be a smartass [/quote]

Me? A smartass? No of course not. I wouldn't think of such a thing! [/quote]

Oh I see. A DIEHARD smartass yet at that