Do you like to hear Tomlin talk?

Guys we aren't talking about the secret recipe of eleven herbs and spices or the formula for classic coke here, its football. Now yes the Lombardi example was a bit extreme but these coaches these days are acting like its still the cold war and they have to protect the launch codes for ICBMs. It isn't going to hurt anything to have Tomlin sit around and talk some football. We are how many seasons into his tenure and I have zero idea what his philosophy is other than he intends to be a tough team to play against. As much as we are excited to see what Butler is going to do I really want to see what Tomlin will bring to the table what is his thought process on defense. He has watched the 3-4 system now for long enough so how would he tweak it. Will he move the CB's up closer than a 10 yard cushion but not in a true press coverage. I'm not asking for him to give out the first 15 scripted plays. Just sit down and have a good football conversation.

 

I bet you weren't saying that in 2008 when they played the most difficult schedule that year and won the Super Bowl. I forgot they only won because of Cowher's players

 

Again Blast it isn't tipping his hand to talk football. Just because a coach says I like the 4-3 its what I came up on doesn't mean he is going to scrap a system that his team is set up for just because he says in an interview I like this. Heck I would love for 31 teams to think "oh man Tomlin just said they are going to play press coverage the majority of time" because when they don't some juicy turnovers could be served up. Talking football like what we are doing doesn't mean that they are going to run plays from whatever they talk about. Discussing your beliefs and philosophies on football isn't giving away the Rosetta stone on how you are going to play it on any given Sunday.

As for the part I've highlighted I'm calling BS on that one. I find it hard to believe as much as some of you watch tape, scout players in college, talk about who is a good fit, who isn't. Who has the right body type for a 3-4, what CB is good in zone coverage vs man, good locker room guys, risky players to bring in. I find it hard to believe when it comes to talking about how the HC would use his players and what his philosophy is that you are basically "meh don't need to know it will all buff out" Then what's the point of the rest because if you don't want to know how the coach see's a player and what he wants from them then who cares who the player is and what he is good at?

 

LOL As a matter of fact i haven't liked Tomlin. from the day he was hired!!! He is way over rate'ed buy the media.. and he still hasn't done anything to get the praise he gets.. IMO oh did he play in games in 2008, or was he on the sideline looking lost and confused, like he has the pst 5 years or so??.................................. OH and i didn't know that i had to like the Coach, to love the franchise.

 

Ok I believe you but then why use time to know who you would take where and how you would play them? It would be wasted time then would it not? Leaving out any thoughts on strategy would mean they could throw any eleven guys out there and you wouldn't care you just want to see how things turn out, would it not? Let me ask you this they have a case with Cortez Allen where his game fell off as his confidence got lower and lower so now Coach Lake and Coach Tomlin have to address how they can go about rebuilding his confidence. My question is would you be interested in knowing how they were going to do that? I'm curious because the mental aspect can really only be worked on so far until Allen will need in game experience that could build him up or tear him even further down. Can Mike Tomlin do that? Yes I believe he can based on what he did for Lynch in Tampa as a position coach. does he have to get into specifics to appease my curiosity? Not really but something more than we do not live in our fears and Cortez must rise to the challenge is what I'd prefer. Maybe that isn't Tomlin, and maybe it isn't any coach in the NFL anyways I don't think is giving away anything by talking about it.

 

I think pro football is a lot like Washington DC. They say "there are no secrets" in DC and I say there are very few in the NFL. I think Tomlin's philosophy is basically to just line up and play and the team with the greatest "will" has the greatest chance to win. I'm sure he very much understands "X's and O's" but he just doesn't put as much stock in to drawing up some complicated scheme as he does in just playing smash mouth football. I felt the same way about Cowher as well. If you ever get to listen to his weekly pressers you will see that he's much more forthcoming there than he is in his post game pressers. He spends about 20min or so breaking down the aspects of the upcoming opponent and then opens it up for questions. I don't think he's near the "football mind" that Belichik is but, in reality, Belichik is much less forthcoming than Tomlin.

 

No

 

Don't care about Tomlin's pressers. I think the way he speaks shows his philosophies though. He is not direct or succinct but rather uses long cliches to answer questions.

I feel Tomlin makes poor decisions because he is vague in his vision for his team.

NOW he wants an elite defense? After picking offense 6 times in 7 years for the second round. Drafting "weapons for Ben" is what pit the Steelers in this mess in the first place.

Tomlin never adressed the OL that selfdestructed in 06 until Pouncey in 2010 then later Decastro and Gilbert and Adams.

Grasping at high pick OL to try and fix a terrible OL which is only starting to work (average line now) 7 years in. I expect the secondary to be along the same lines.

Tomlin's speech is like his coaching: indirect and confusing to onlookers.

 

Tomlin was pretty forthcoming about Wallace. He's the one that christened him as the "one trick pony". Also when Anthony Smith was here after he got torched by Brady and then had another bad game after that Tomlin said the reason he benched him was because he "couldn't keep the ball in front of him".

 

I don't care to hear him talk, but so much of this is demanded by the NFL. See Marshawn Lynch SB interview. Hey, I don't want to hear most of these guys talk, period. Make things happen on the field, not so much worried about eloquent public speaking engagements. Personally, I'd rather them all be like Lynch and just shut up, but contractually they can't.

 

Talk seems to be all he does and I admit talks quite well. I find it interesting that he is now on a bandwagon about how dynamic the Steeler offense is going to be this year. Wonder what he will have to say as he continues to lead the Steelers in being defeated by the lower tier teams this year as his past MO has been since he arrived in Pittsburgh? I say, Tomlin is not the answer to bring the Steelers any more Lombardi's.

 

Not sure bandwagon is the right word there? I doubt he's just saying it because everyone else is...

Consistency and execution is what's going to make it a reality, though.

 

Obviously, yes he is more entertaining than Billecheat and isn't a prick like hairball. Now, I realize I'm opening a can of worms with that because some want hairball on our team. I, do not.

 

Tough topic...

I think Thorn`s points most closely align with my point of view...

I can also understand why some people would not want to divulge "secrets", or our "strategy"...

Myself, I was taken with our head coach`s use of language, for his first couple years.

Since then, he seems more like a politician, than a coach...

Dancing around questions, with big words, platitudes, and cliches, instead of direct answers...

Then again, so do most other coaches, and players, for that matter...

So, I won`t fault him for that.

I find it refreshing when players speak their mind, as long as they aren`t openly calling out their teammates, or coaches.


See, Harrison, Taylor, Ward, Lambert, etc...

As for Coach T, he does show a very good scouting ability, when he points out our opponent`s strengths, in his weekly pressers... even if he tends to go to extremes, making an 0 and whatever roster, look like it`s loaded with ProBowlers...

He DOES have a point...

It`s the NFL... We shouldn`t take ANYTHING for granted, so, Why do we play like we do exactly that?!?

I`ve seen him focus on areas of weakness, his first year with the team, by devoting practice time, to special teams, when that was our biggest weakness,

And by trying to make players accountable, by publishing "the news", every Monday after a game, showing players that made mistakes..

Bringing officials into training camp, when there are rule changes, to try to get his players used to the new rules..

He definitley has some gameday deficiencies, like clock management, challenging plays, etc...

But overall, I would say he is a pretty effective head coach.

More detail oriented, and well prepared, than a LOT of them..

Just because I`ve grown tired of his cliches, doesn`t mean that I think we`d be better off without him.

I wish a LOT of the players, and coaches would speak their mind in interviews, but that just ain`t how it is, nowadays...

It`s more about...

"I just wanna help my team, in whatever role they want me to play"..., etc, etc...

BOOOORRRIINNGG!!! And False!

Honesty is the best policy, until you practice it!!!

YOU CAN`T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!


GO STEELERS!!!