Diesel, silverback an Troy. Your thoughts.

Not about their play but who thinks they all are done after this season and it's fallout.

Have we seen the worst yet?

I think all 3 leave, and we will still have "No Stickum" Ike, a fidgety o line and undisciplined young players.

It all seems gloomy but is one off season enough to right this big ship? I don't think so.

But... We have a kicker that finally clears the end zone, and I still don't think we are as bad as the 80's.

I don't know contract stuff, this based on emotions an body languages on the field.

 

Ike "Toast" Taylor will not be on the roster next year.

 

Keisel might be back if he heels quickly/well.

Troy might be back, but I'm not sure he is a starter at this point.

 

Hate to say it but, I think Kiesel is done. I really hope Troy retires and Harrison stays as a situational rusher.

 

Harrison sure looked good for a spurt... I think he is running on E now though, what has he done lately?

I think he is done, and he said so himself.

 

He didn't say he was done, officially. He said he will decide that at the end of this season.

 

Gone, gone, and gone.

And Ike? Gone.

Keisel won't recover and we shouldn't bother. Think Aaron Smith in his twilight years. Too severe of an injury for an older NFLer to effectively recover from.

Troy, this pains me to say, is fading fast. He's often just a step or two late, and that will continue to become worse. His salary is way too high for what he actually does on the field. Time to sink or swim with the Shark, if he can stay healthy. If Troy take a massive pay cut, like Ike did this year, then I could see him staying in a strictly backup and redzone capacity. I don't think he will.

Silverback we'll have no need for, and he's just getting too old to be a consistent performer. Like Troy, I could see him staying for another year as a strictly situational defender, but at this point he's taking up practice time from some of the younger guys. If we stay injury free, he'll be gone.

Ike? I'm tired of seeing him jogging after the WR who just burned him. Thank you for everything, but it's clear his skills are quickly eroding. I'm almost to the point where I don't want him back in any scenario, unlike Troy and/or Silverback. If the training camp injury bug bites, then maybe I'd give him a call, but that's about the only situation I'd be comfortable with.

Our defense stinks with these guys, so let's just move on. Thank you for the glory years, we couldn't have done it without the four of you.

 

Stick a fork in them.

 

Keisel, Ike, Troy and Harrison should not be brought back even if they want to play again. Ike and Troy are done and can no longer help us. Can Harrison or Keisel help us? Perhaps a little bit here and there, but not on any type of consistent or long term level. We need to replace these guys and bringing them back all the time delays that from happening. Yes, we may crash and burn at those positions, but it will force us to evaluate who we have and whether we need to draft or sign someone at those positions. We can't keep bringing back guys who are past their prime. It's like paying your bills with a credit card, it only delays the inevitable. It's time to fix our holes and not bringing them back forces our hand

 

I think they will all be gone including Ike.

 

I wouldn't bring Troy back either, but his saving grace is the safeties on this roster leave a lot to be desired. That's why I only see him gone if we draft another safety early.

I think Ike could play 1 more year, but we at least have some depth at this position, letting him go doesn't hurt us one bit.

Yeah the Keisel injury is bad, but I don't think Colbert will just say See'Ya, I think he will at least monitor Keisel's rehab.

 

A lot of people want to see a change in the defensive system, and I think the real spur for this would be if Troy retires. You can't just slot a replacement Troy in there. You can't train someone up to do what he does.

I'm not saying it would be a radical shift - after all, Troy hasn't been the X factor he's been in previous seasons this year - but whoever our DC is next season needs to be almost starting from scratch again, reappraising where the strengths are, what personnel we have, and how our defensive scheme can get the most out of it all.

 

I was glad to see the beard and James come back this year, but all good things must come to an end as well as Ike and Troy. The downside to this reunion was.. we will be going through another learning curve in 2015 ref. replacements (patching) and getting the current members up to speed and for some i don't foresee much of a change. I also see Jones and Shazier as libilities ref. accident pronies and our current wish for sweeping the AFCN imo is slim to none. Even if we would get into PO's it would be short lived. Going forward the following ingredients must be tossed into the recipe for reaching another championship.. discipline, continuity, and the larger consistency and how's that achieved, well for one.. better coaching remember accountability starts at the top.

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All of them should be done after this year.... but who knows what will ACTUALLY happen.