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Shazier is looking like a bust so far

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. Busman

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    Last year I think I called out Bell because of injuries as well and well look now so I am not going to make that mistake again lol

    Give him time. He will adjust to the game and learn from his mistakes. He will be stronger and presumably healthier and perhaps even faster. I do like the pick and I see him becoming another James Farrior
     
  2. jeh1856

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    OLB's look like stars if they make a couple of sacks. ILB's generally lead the team in tackles.
     
  3. lewisha

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    Speaking of outside backers, weren't a few people calling JJ a bust after last year, and then he started to come on this year before getting injured? The Steelers do not do the "one player can fix the whole thing" mentality like the Brownies.The Steelers build.
     
  4. biggbunch68

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    What is your idea of a player '" comeing on " does'n't he only have 1 sack and a handful of tckls??
     
  5. PWP

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    I don't think he is or will be a bust ..With that said I hated the pick and still feel the same way....IMO we had enough talent at the position and needed DB help in a big way . I also wanted a Vertical TE or a OT . So I will never be happy with that pick I don't guess ,but he will be a good LB for us .
     
  6. mac daddyo

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    he played better than last year, all through the preseason and up until the injury. remember the whole defense wasn't real good back then. he was doing much better against the run then most at that time, so yes he was coming on better than last year.:cool:
     
  7. steelerzfannforever

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    Shazier is not injury prone! He was very dependable and stable while at OSU...I watched him play week in and week out, and he is a beast! I don't think that anyone could avoid getting rolled up on the way he did last Sunday, but I think everyone needs to establish patience and like you said "be willing to see what he can do on the field!
     
  8. steelersrule6

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    Duh the arguments weren't weak to sign Harrison the Steelers felt the same way, the only reason they signed Harrison is because of injuries and they were desperate. Stop making excuses for Harrison he sucked for 2 seasons for the amount of money he was making. Calling Shazier a bust might be the wrong choice of words, but his play has been underwhelming so far. I was expecting him to be a playmaker, and haven't seen that from him except in the preseason.
     
  9. Blast Furnace

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    Yeah, and obviously wrong in light of how he is playing and how the team is responding to his and Keisels leadership.

    And anyone willing to look deeper at Harrisons play the two previous seasons would see why his numbers were down.
     
  10. blackandgoldpatrol

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    he had 2 and 1 ff in 2.5 games
     
  11. thesteeldeal

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    Cmon Blast let's not go down this road again....it's not worth listening to the stammering. He is back and still in beast mode and should have been signed way before a injury made it necessary. Some of us were right and many others were wrong,there's no need to rub their noses in it. I don't think it's necessary to be a "I told you so" when a simple :yahoo::dancing:will do.
     
  12. SteelerGlenn

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    Harrison was injured to start 2012 as a matter fact if I remember correctly he missed the first few games.
    2013 he played for the bangles in the 4–3 defense. And played a position does that does not suit his skill set.

    This stuff is not that hard to understand. People were calling for the signing of Harrison for depth purposes, not starter.

    Shazier my be A bit disappointing based on our expectations after the preseason, but no way can we use the word bust not even close.
     
  13. mac daddyo

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    and I have never had trouble with busts in my days. just sayin.;):smiley1::cool:
     
  14. jeh1856

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    Harrison was the AARP player of the week.
     
  15. freakfontana

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    not me i knew that an
    healty harrison would have been
    the best pas russer on the team again .now let's hope we will find an adequate replacement for the future since is not immortal ..btw i would sign him the next year too
     
  16. JackAttack 5958

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    That's funny right there! :roflmao:
     
  17. thesteeldeal

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    [​IMG]Just finished watching the game again. I don't know how I missed this the first time. Its a shame what James did to flake O.... Old and slow? Harrison smash puny flake O...
     
  18. Steel_Razorback

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    He's still likely to become something special and it's too early to call him a bust. (Our biggest busts (return on investment) this season are Cortez and Troy. They stink.) But I get where you are coming from. What good is a player if they are only healthy 30% of the time? If a player seemingly crumbles with every boo-boo; they ain't NFL material and should be traded for draft picks or full-sized players that can take the hits (Ben/Blount).
     
  19. Da Stellars

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    He sure looks light, I wonder if he needs to bulk up to take the pounding.

    He looks built like a safety or an OLB actually.
     
  20. HugeSnack

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    30% of what? It's year one. Le'Veon "Tinker" Bell was out for 100% of his rookie year, for awhile. Then he got healthy. Of course it's too early to say he's a bust. It's also too early to call him injury prone.

    Crumbles from a boo-boo? We're talking about getting knees and ankles rolled up on. That kills the biggest, toughest guys. I'll never understand the mind-set of someone that equates strength with injury. It's one thing if you're talking about an Archer-type getting slammed around. But what about Pouncey? He's been injured lots of times. Is he a full-sized player? Was his torn ACL a boo-boo? What about Aaron Smith?

    Some guys are, for whatever reason, lucky about their health. Some guys are unlucky. Of course body maintenance is part of it, but a lot of it is just luck. Plenty of great athletes/players have been injury prone, and plenty of crappy players stay healthy.
     
  21. Steel_Razorback

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    Thanks for the counter-point, HugeSnack. Perhaps I could've phrased that a little better? Apologize for any ruffled feathers or misunderstanding.

    Football is a physical, unpredictable, and often violent sport. I didn't mention Shazier specifically or any other Steeler generally as injury prone or weak. I just meant to empathize with the original post's pov because it does seem like the team (rookies and vets) always has key/numerous injuries. But now that you mention it... they have had some injury prone big players like Worilds (early on), an aging Troy, Woodley, or Kendrell Bell. And you are correct, maybe even Pouncy?

    However, by mentioning Ben/Blount as examples of full-sized players that took some hard/cheap shots w/out injury; I implied Tomlin has a penchant for gambling on other fast "little guys" (position wise) that may not be durable enough to sustain a long punishing NFL season/career. Again, I don't see this as a issue for the (non-bust) Shazier but it could be one for Jones/Archer/Spence.
     
  22. cajunyankee

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    I totally agree with a response you posted later, Shazier Has been underwhelming when he has been healthy. That's partly because we were hoping for pro bowl skills right out of the gate. Instead he has looked lost at times. OUT of position on plays and late in coverage. His struggles along with Cortez Allen's and a sorry baby zilla with no pass rush from Worilds & JJ is why we were bad defensively early on.

    Right now it looks like we should have taken cj Mosley instead......... I'm glad we didn't!!!! Shazier will be a beast!!!

    We do have a bust on this team though we didn't draft him,,,,.. DHB, HE needs to be cut. Just to incense a near riot on here if you want to use the bust word with drafted players Heyward and JJ would be better targets. Neither are but a case for either would be easier made than for Shazier.

    CAJUN
     
  23. PWP

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    Why in the world would you cut DHB ? He was a bust for the Raiders he never earned his pay ..Now with us he is blocking very well as a WR he is also drawing double coverage and creating lots of space on the field ....He has also played well on Special Teams he has done his job, he was the contain man on the Jones long return and he forced the returner inside and then he was held....

    Why do you think he should be cut ?
     
  24. cajunyankee

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    He has ONE catch, does NOT Get doubled covered and has ZERO ST tackles..... J Brown is a much better blocking wr too. He isn't needed on offense with the emergence of Bryant and on ST I'd much preferred Ross Ventrone.

    Cajun
     
  25. SC Gamecock

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    Exactly. As mind boggling as it is that haters in the media couldn't figure this fact out, it's even more of a head-scratcher that Steelers fans haven't figured it out...
     

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