let's make a poll to understand how this board is oriented , just curiosity (they can do what they w

You're clueless if you think this team has tons of talent, on offense they do but the defense is a joke. If they had a ton of talent they wouldn't be struggling to stop players like Brian Hoyer, and Mike Glennon. They have probably the worst secondary in the NFL, and no Pro Bowl players on defense.

 

This was going to be my response as well.

We're inconsistent at the moment - terribly inconsistent - and that in a way hurts more than being flat out bad.

 

I agree that our defense is not at the same level as the offense. Our secondary is in shreds and I'm really hoping that Mike Mitchell isn't a bust, because we are in a world of hurt if he is with how much he just got paid. BUT...he was a pro bowl caliber player when he had a strong front seven. Any secondary becomes a million times better when there is pressure up front. We HAVE to find a franchise DT if we're going to stay with the 3-4; it is a must. Casey Hampton constantly was pulling-in double coverage and creating a lot of space in the trenches for LB's to come through and around. Once the college season is over, I start to research draft prospects more (meaning as of now I have no idea what kind of impact players are out there who will be in the '15 draft). But CB and DT have to be our #1 priorities next year!

I truly do feel that there is talent on this defense. The talent that is there needs to have a fire lit under their @$$ and be motivated/pushed to get to the next level. We need a healthy Shazier so he can get acclimated to the speed of the NFL. He is going to be a Farrior/Polamalu type of leader as he matures. I hope to God that Tuitt is an impact player next year. I really believe that we are only 2-3 players away on defense before getting back to the Steelers defense that we've always known!

 

^ this! Especially if the lack of discipline shows absolutely no improvement

 

To me, this whole argument comes down to discipline. And this team certainly seems to have none. That all starts with the head coach. If he can't discipline the team, he's not the coach I want running the franchise.

 

Didnt realize Tomlin had so many family members on this board,

 

I agree w/many on here that the poll would be better revised to try to capture the kind of season missing the playoffs...is it 8-8, 7-9, or 5-11. I do think if this season goes really badly then Tomlin will and should be fired. But I just doubt that will be the case. I think the team is likely a 7-9 or 8-8 type team from what I see. So at this time I voted "no" and am looking at it more through the eyes of how things were handled with Cowher where he had three non playoff seasons as well.

 

I have said many times, I can handle losing if we come out and played inspired, disciplined football. Perhaps the talent is just not there in that situation. Watching this team, and last years, come out and look like they are asleep at the wheel and then get 125 yards in penalites on top of that (in the TB game)..that is my issue. If we don't make the playoffs, I think he is gone - assuming the team continues to play the way they have for the last three seasons.

 

Most of them this past Sunday looked like "I get paid millions a year and don't give a $*** what happens..."

 

Agree with you there my friend. Its been a snowball effect since the Tebow playoff debacle.

 

I voted that he should be fired. I felt that way after the horrible 0-4 start last year and even after the season last year. I feel this way not only because of the on field performance but because of the off field issues as well. Since Tomlin has been here the Steelers have underachieved greatly in the draft especially. I just don't see how Cowher & co could draft so well year in and year out and now we have had many swing and misses notably in the 1st round.

 

If I was Tomlin, I'd fire myself if they miss the playoffs. Just quit Mike. Honestly, anything less than a 12-4 season with our schedule will be a disappointment.

 

Talent wins in this league, if you can't get stops on defense you end up 8-8.

 

How succinct.

 

No we are the pittsburgh steelers
We dont fire coaches
so why would we fire Tomlin
Hes doing ok
hes not the problem
he doesnt miss a tackle he doesnt get a flag thrown on him
hes not the gm

 

I was never on the "fire Tomlin" side but now I am and I'll give you my reasons why he should be fired if we don't see a turnaround. For the last 3 seasons we consistently lose, or barely get by bad teams, the offense is either poor or the defense just doesn't show up and sometimes it is both. Now we all know this can happen but it happens with regularity, it looks as if they didn't even practice, if it happened once or twice then yeah, players are human but the mistakes that get made seem to be from a team that isn't prepared at all. The Bucs come into a game knowing the Steelers are rushing very well and that they like to play that kind of game, so they stack the box first thing and run blitz, but what happened? Our o-line looked confused and as a result our QB got crushed and fumbled, and then a young stationary QB throws a TD pass, down 7 zip. We come out the next series and the same thing, the box is loaded up and we run up the middle and then try a screen with no blockers, 3 and out from deep in our own territory, it looks like they have the plays scripted and it doesn't matter what the opposing defense looks like, they are going to run the play they decided. Defense, well when you can't get pressure even with a blitz the secondary is going to suffer no matter how good they are and having one of, if not the worst, secondary in the league just makes things that much worse. That brings me to my only out for Tomlin, I'd be willing to go another year with him if they get DL to retire, and I'm sorry to those that believe it is the players, yes, we don't have the guys to run his system but he doesn't change anything, the cross-fire blitz hurts to even watch it anymore, and what is worse is when they run it and the QB still ends up not having to move, and any throwing lane he wants to be open is open, someone has to go.

 

If they go 9-7 and miss the playoffs then Tomlin comes back. The Steelers didn't fire Cowher after he missed the playoffs for 3 straight years.

 

NO. EAZYPEEZY

got this question correct

NEXT!!!

 

Except for Heath.

 

The success that coach T has had was primarily early in his career. With a team that was basically still Cowher's product. Tomlin has had some success but just like someone else said... not to a Steeler's standard.

Let him go be unproductive elsewhere. Let him try his old schtick where ever that may. I'm tired of his words of change, and no action.

How can he get down on the team and comment that the penalties hurt us? He is the HEAD coach. He should have known all the deficiencies to each player. Sure he isn't a puppet master (directing players), but why does he act like a dummy; someone else is pulling him along.

 

I voted no......... Now if we have a total collapse, 6-10 & under then everyone is gone. Colbert, Tomlin and his entire staff. Our Offense is too good to go that bad. If we go 7-9/8-8 and our defense is ranked is ranked in the bottom 66% again then Fan Favorite LeBeau is gone and Colbert/Tomlin is put on notice, Playoffs or the streets. In fact I feel if we don't go deep into the playoffs Colbert is put on notice and LeBeau is asked to retire.

Colbert- I've defended you over the years but you just haven't acquired the Championship level talent we need to win the Superbowl. You haven't been a total disaster as you've acquired a championship caliber offense but championships are won with defenses and ours is headed in the wrong direction.

Tomlin- I get your point, you have to coach the players your GM brings you and you must keep a DC the Rooneys and Steeler Nation loves but fault you are not without. Your team is undisciplined on the field as they lead the league in personal fouls/unsportsmanlike penalties and penalties overall. How is it everyone in America knows a player cannot go to the ground in celebration but yet your players learn this via a penalty ( A. Brown ) , are you not teaching the rules of the game? Speaking of teaching, our defense has zero clue on how to tackle. No one is in the right position to make a tackle and they prefer to hit in place of wrapping up. You were a DC once, remember? When your nickel CB ( W. Gay ) is the best tackler on the team there is a fundamental problem in coaching.


LeBeau- You are a Legend in your own time. Thank You for everything. I get you don't have the talent you once had and if you did then our defense would be a top tier defense but here is our problem. You are famed for being innovative but you are stuck in forcing the same system/style of defense on players not best suited for said scheme. You insist on being a base 3-4 team yet you have no dominate NT- No effective pass rushing OLBers on either side. Too much time being allowed for the CB to cover and the safeties are not on the same page. Where is shark? Zero snaps. Shouldn't he be getting some snaps if he's going to replace Troy next year or maybe he might some plays this year the other two isn't, couldn't hurt trying? You invented the 3-4 zone blitz when it was needed...... time to invent a new scheme.


Cajun-

 

The same lame argument no coach is going to win without talent, the team is in transition with a lot of young players.