The Price of Loyalty in Pittsburgh

I'm not really sure when you think Ben has been given a chance to carry a team.

 

Yeah lets trade BEN.....if you think its bad now wait until we trade him.....yall b jumping off bridges somewhere BEN is NOT the problem.

 

hell lets just make the trade to weed out the lightweights

 

Your assuming he will be able to walk. If the sacks continue on the pace they are now Ben will need a walker after 2 years.. Partly kidding but also serious.

 

It takes a smart front office and head coach to rebuild a team, they must know how to evaluate talent in the draft and FAgency, and know when to cut the umbilical cord with old players to balance out cap space, certainly we don't have that brain trust in place to rebuild this team, when you have a front office handing out big contracts to under performing old players, and a head coach in denial talking about going to the super bowl with an under performing team, then we have a big problem...

 

Not me!!! Just one leg over the rail

 

I disagree, the Steelers have been to 3 Super Bowls in the last 10 years and won 2 the Cowboys have won one playoff game in the last 18 years. You keep believing that lame garbage from ESPN radio. The Steelers are in a tough spot but every team will experience it.

 

There are people on this board who are oblivious to the fact that we've basically SUCKED WIND SINCE WE GOT TEBOWED IN 2011!!!!! And for goodness sakes don't say anything about Tomlin or question his coaching abilities because there are a few on this board who think Tomlin CAN DO NO WRONG!!!! To all you Mike Tomlin apologists out there tell me again why you think he's a good head coach. He inherited a team with solid veteran leadership and he was smart enough to get out of the way while they went to a couple more Super Bowls. I'll give him some credit for that but I give more credit to the veteran leadership he inherited. What's he doing now? He's not developing the talent he currently has and he's wasting the prime years of a franchise quarterback with his ineptitude as a head coach.

3 years since what???!!! Come on, Glenn! Get your head out of the sand!!!!

 

i think some people think that who is vs tomlin is vs the steelers , i love the steelers i just would like to defend them from tomlin ... definetely not steelers material ,but probably even a nfl material , he had zero qualify when was hired and now is putting his stamp on our team ...

 

Ben will be gone eventually. Question is do you want to sign him to a big contract, sacrificing the rest of the roster and live in mediocrity for 5 years then deal with the big drop off when he retires, or cut bait now, stink but build a roster that will be competitive in 3-5 years? I can see both sides of the argument, but I choose option 2.

 

are you sure we will find another qb like ben in 3/5 years last time we had to wait 25 years

 

If you don't extend these two then they walk during free agency and you are looking at Brice McCain and Mike Adams replacing them.

Now I'm not saying that they are worth the money they signed for but if that's all you have you are stuck. At least until you get some better talent.

 

i prefer mc cain and adams at 1 milion than jeopardy our cap for players of the same level more or less , do you realize that gilber if cut next year we will have to eat 6 milion sb , and if yo don't cut him he will get ben killed
the only way we can survive is or gilbert improve drammatically (never happen ) or he realize he suck and stoll the money and take a big pay cut

 

it would be different at many of the positions to let vets go, but the fact that colbert hasn't given us anybody that even shows a glimer of replacement value ready to step in.

keeping and extending two tackles that are just not good enough isn't going to help munchak show his true stripes.

if your not going to surround your franchise qb with good support, you might as well trade him. we have become a team of average or below is good enough.

a big reason i have said timmons may not be here alot longer too. he's got a heafty price tag attached to him.

nine million for worilds? really?

yet we cut so'oto that made some game changing plays. molls the tackling machine against the run in the preseason gets cut and sent to the PS luckily.

shamarko, golden, blake, webb, mccain, really? how would we ever know if they can play or not? richardson? these guys need desperate field time so we can see them under game conditions. maybe it will be worse, and maybe not.

it's like they bring in low level backups to make the subpar guys that will make the team look better. it's like picking vileneuva (sp?) up and dumping every other guy you had in camp all year. he's not some LT ready guy what so ever and he's your only practice squad offensive lineman kept. there has to be a guy out there with a little more ready skills than him. at least as your only one. or at least something for munchak to at least start with.

we need an OT, TE, CB, FS, OLB, C/G, RB in the draft next year. let munchak pick his linemen. get a good T, CB, OLB and TE either in the draft or free agency. give these coaches something to work with. let's see mccullers,tuitt and cam h.. let's see spence,shazier and timmons blitzing from different spots and mixing them up in coverage. let's see shark and mitchell. let's see gay,allen and webb, or blake or mccain as the nickles. if we are not going to put playmaking starters on the field, we need to get these backups more time to show something with the starters. it's got to help their growth and the teams needs down the road alot clearer. they're on the team, use them.

 

You like to keep bringing that up, Blast, but you gloss over the fact that the team started 2-6 and looked flat, uninspired and unprepared for the first half of the season. And the season before he did a great job getting the team off to a 6-2 before finishing 2-6.

He's a great coach for about half a season.

 

Ben is not THE problem. But he is clearly part of the problem. It is a team effort. Right now, he is playing mediocre at best. He will not get better with age. Franchise him for a year or two, and prepare to move on.

 

Gilbert allowed the most sacks (11) and quarterback hurries (30) of the offensive linemen,

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Or, this team does actually have enough talent to play well in stretches, but isn't organized/coached well enough to maintain a higher level of consistency.