did anyone see this?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...on-worilds-rejected-pittsburgh-steelers-offer

it may have slipped by me and already discussed. if so I am sorry for the post. was wondering if anyone had any idea what the offer might be? the article talks about them making weeks ago so I was wondering if details might have come out since

 

If you're him, you're smarter to play without the contract. He's set for money this year. A strong season will drive his price way up, and he'll be an UFA. He'd certainly get more, either from us or another team. Or we franchise him, he makes even more for one season, and then hits the open market the following year. The only way he loses by not signing the Steelers' offer is by getting hurt and missing most of the year. That's really the only risk he's taking.

 

Injury is a risk, but he already has $10M locked up, and I suspect the potential difference in Pittsburgh's 2014 contract and the field's 2015 contract could be $20M or more. Suppose we offered him 5 years, $35M. If he sets the world on fire he could get a $50M or $60M contract next year.

As for having a down season, I think Jason agrees with me - that won't happen. The back half of last season wasn't a fluke. It was him coming together. That's what we'll see from now on, as long as he's healthy. The man is explosive.

I'm not saying he shouldn't take our offer. Injury is a serious risk, and I'm sure it's a lot more money than he thought he'd ever see this time last year. I'm just saying that there is significant room for increase, and as long as the potential for more is significant, most players will wait for the most money. I'd rather he signed right now. I just don't expect him to.

 

well hes missed 11 practices so far with the calf injury whatever that is .. could be nothing or could be the kind of calf injury that had hampered troy for 2 or 3 years.. lets hope it the short term injury?

HINES

 

calf injury = veal

worilds better have a god year

 

he's basically shooting himself in the foot...looks like he wants to move on with a team that will pay him top dollar... if that's the case, then good riddance after the season..... I believe his replacement may already be on the team, and i'm sure the coaches and f.o. are looking at that

 

How many players across the league does that describe? They want two things: a good situation, and as much money as possible. There are plenty of other options for Worilds. I wish it wasn't that way too, but come on. If Baltimore offered Ben $50M per year, he'd take it.

 

Was there a quote or something to lead you to believe that? I haven't read about any feet-stomping. I'm assuming he hasn't taken it because he thinks he'll get more next year, either from Pittsburgh or elsewhere. And unless he goes down with a big injury, I think he's right. I'm sure the Steelers made a fair offer, but fair isn't always the same as best. Plenty of guys get unreasonably high offers, and he's in the type of situation to get one of those. And anyway, like I said, a fair offer next year will be more than a fair offer this year.

It's a bit of a gamble, but I think the odds are on his side. I don't condone it, but I understand it. And it doesn't necessarily have to involve bad blood. Until I hear about any of that, I'm assuming it's just business.

 

Hmm. Debatable, considering who was ahead of him. I definitely agree with that sentiment somewhat. I thought they should have worked him in more, just like they should have worked Cam Heyward in more. Still, it's a leap from, "They should have put me in sooner" to "I don't want to play here anymore" or "You owe me extra money for not playing me sooner." I still think it's more likely he simply values himself higher than the number they gave him.

 

Exactly.. Could be nothing or something. Guess we wont know for a bit yet if he is healthy. This alone should have the organization pause and reflect.

We really do not know with any certainty how healthy he is or if he can remain healthy. We might have a china kendrell bell doll on our hands hehe

Bman

 

Agreed . He will have to have a god like year lol

Bman

 

well they said that he practiced a little more today and that hes better . but how many times did troy come back for a few plays with his calf injury only to go back out..?

HINES

 

I guess it will depend on the type of injury it is how sever and how easily he recovers. They are saying calf. Hopefully its only a calf and not a hammy. I remember Woodley struggling with a hammy for a full year.
Bman

 

well, Troy did earn the right at least to have a wait and approach situation later in his career. Worilds had a handful of good games... Hard to play hard ball with. He has been injury nagged, so it goes without saying "prove yourself". He also did get a handful of playing time here and there and couldn't cut the mustard until he switched to woodleys side. Could be a coaching mishap to have him out of place I guess... Who knows? In my opinion, even if he does have a monster year, I would love to see them avoid another Woodley contract at this point.

 

BF I believe you are talking about JW having butler tell him no matter what he did he wasn't starting. something very close to that anyway.
I don't understand the being bitter about that though. he was handed the job last year and blew it out of the gate to the rookie. he's had other chances to start though and also didn't fair as a guy that deserves top pay. so lets franchise him again, it will get him here and paid for another year after this one, unless our new guys flat out take that money from him. if ya know what I mean. he's allowing a lot of new guys to get some hard looks this year.

 

Tried real hard to stay out of this one, because so many good points were made for and against signing him...
Rational arguments.
But yet again... it boils down to...
IT`S A BUSINESSS....
It`s almost like that`s a cop-out on both sides...
The player to the team, or the team, to the player...
What happened to LOYALTY?
Oh Yeah, I forgot, free agency.
Teams` gotta pick who to pay, and players gotta pick who to play for.
Damn shame, but, it is what it is.
The Rooney`s were very cheap in the late 80`s, early 90`s, becoming a farm team for the league, IMHO...
Now, they`ve learned their lesson, and have to pay for some talent to stay on their team...
But, NO team can pay all 52 guys...
Gotta pick n choose...
If Worillds wants his payday, I can`t blame him, but I really think any other team would be taking a pretty big gamble on paying him top dollar right now...(Including us)
after this season.... Maybe... but, that`s the gamble...
We`ve already spent some signifigant money, on people we wanna keep...
If he WANTS to play here, and has a good season, the Family has shown they will find a way to make it work, if they have faith in him, if not, they will rent him for an expensive tag...if no one else steps up.
If he wants the money more than he wants to play here, who cares? We don`t want those kind of players here, anyhow...
Enjoy your payday, if that`s all that matters.
We can replace ya!
GO STEELERS!

 

i think woodley struggled with the hammy for severallllllllll years...

HINES

 

Bouchette was wrong? Shocked to my core.

I actually believe either side. Wouldn't surprise me if they gave him an offer and he turned it down. Wouldn't surprise me if none if that happened yet. Hopefully this latest report is true, and they'll make him an offer soon.