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Mike Adams Attackers Found Not Guilty

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by TerribleTowelFlying, Apr 30, 2014.

  1. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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  2. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    So what does that mean? There is reasonable doubt they got the wrong guys, or that Mike Adams instigated the whole thing?
     
  3. thorn058

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    I am not a lawyer and by no means am I versed in PA penal law but in this case it looks like the DA didn't do due diligence before proceeding with the case against them. Seems like the case was built upon a house of cards with some of the charges being propped up by others and once it was established that it wasn't attempted homicide then the aggravated assault become less likely and so on and so forth. If the surprise witness was to be believed and I don't see any reason not to believe the testimony then a case could almost be made that it was self defense. Either way if there was a witness to the whole thing they should have been interviewed by the police and the DA prior to going to trial because to my thinking they would have plea bargained and not wasted a courts time.
     
  4. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I have only followed the situation tangentially, but this seems strange to me. I can understand that the confusion about what really happened could have caused lesser assault charges, and no charges of attempted murder, but seriously - the guy got STABBED in a 1 vs. 3 altercation. Three guys having a confrontation with a drunk had to STAB him to get away without suffering lethal harm? This reeks.
     
  5. freakfontana

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    they were 3 vs 1 they had a knife and adams was stabbed .. is not enough ?
     
  6. thorn058

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    Not enough to convince 12 jurors( I think it was a jury trail) and probably not enough for a criminal charge but if Adams wants to pursue it I am sure it makes a better civil case. Maybe.
     
  7. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Adams being drunk and maybe being the aggressor hurt the case.
     
  8. gpguy

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    Wow...SMH at this crap
     
  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Sweet, now I know I can stab some Raven fans and get away with it.

    Seriously, what a joke. Good job jurors :facepalm:
     
  10. Bleedsteel

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    Haven`t really followed this case closely...
    I did read yesterday, or the day before, that a person employed by the Steelers, in a security role, is also sumkinda police officer, and he testified that when they inventoried Mike`s S.U.V., they found a half empty soda bottle, and a part of a sandwich, which would appear to verify Mike`s claims, that he was just out getting a bite to eat, and basically got mugged...
    No alcohol involved, at least on his part...
    I will give him the benefit of the doubt, even tho, he had to convince the Steelers front office, that all that partying was in his past, for them to draft him.
    I wasn`t there.
    I don`t know what happened.
    The things I`ve heard, seem to support Adam`s version of the story,
    And seem to lend credence to my hate for defense attorneys... (Unless, of course, I happen to need one, and can afford one of the best!)
    Like Metallica said, back in the day, Justice is lost. Justice is raped! Halls of Justice painted green! Money talking!
    Although, It`s hard to believe that Mike didn`t have higher priced lawyers?:shrug:
    Why couldn`t they get their job done?
    Somethin` don` add up here...
    GO STEELERS!!!:herewego:
     
  11. Boomer

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    Anyone that's served on a jury knows that there are some truely stupid people in this world. We all should be scared to go to trial knowing some of the idiots that would get called in to decide your fate.
     
  12. winggin

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    I don't believe Mike hired these attorneys. They are public servents, District Attorneys. Basically what the city can afford.

    Still I agree this stinks to high hell.
     
  13. Coastal Steeler

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    Hey Mike, I got a fix for that

    3 bad guys: give us your truck Big MOFO or we'll stab you!
    Mike Adams: BANG BANG BANG You dumb asses brought a knife to a gun fight. Good luck in the next life.
     
  14. SteelCity_NB

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    I'm no legal expert, but I thought the charges of attempted murder were going to be hard to get convictions on. Still, you think the aggrevated assault charges would have stuck. You just can't punch people in the face and stab them. I don't care how drunk and unruly the victim may be.
     
  15. mac daddyo

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    :thumbs_up::cool:
     
  16. michigangranny

    michigangranny New Member

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    Guess the jury decided Mike Adams deserved to be stabbed! Now his sleezy attackers are free to roam the streets of Pittsburgh, looking for their next victims. Maybe next time, the person they consider to be "easy-pickins" will pull out their legally registered gun & start shooting 1-2-3.
     
  17. cajunyankee

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    It's ALL about the "charges" and how its worded. One aggressive and powerful Giant ( adams pro footballer standing 6'8" and 320+ Lbs ) threatening 3 small dudes physically & verbally and being intoxicated is not the making of an innocent victim of attempted murder, carjacking and since he was stabbed but once in the abdomen "aggravated" assault is also hard to establish.

    Now if he'd been stabbed multiple times and/or punched/kicked and received injurys like broken nose/jaw or ribs then the charges would have been more viable.

    Cajun-
     
  18. freakfontana

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    that's what i thought too
    :shrug:
     
  19. 58stillers

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    Shocking to me, Ohio typically says that self defense has be be an immediate threat of life (maybe PA is different??). 3 skinny guys could easily run away from a "drunk" aggressive 320lb man and avoid the immediate danger. Unless Adams is on top of or grasping one of them, I don't see how they can argue an immediate danger.... one guy had enough time to pull out a knife.

    Somewhat shocking that the end result is an undisputed stabbing that's justified by the jury.
     
  20. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    This would make a lot of sense of the verdict.
     
  21. Blast Furnace

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    One stab wound to the stomach is often fatal. There is an artery that runs through your stomach, slice that, say goodnight mary. Aggravated assault should have been very easy to get. I just don't understand how you can go around punching and stabbing people because the guy was big. The jury and prosecutors blew this badly.
     
  22. michigangranny

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    These 3 guys are not the fine, upstanding citizens as claimed by their attorneys & families. After injuring Adams, they ran from the scene. One of them fled to Florida. Now they think they are invincible, and I believe will eventually try harming someone else again. As my Grandpa would say, "Leopards can't change their spots!"
     
  23. cajunyankee

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    True but honestly it doesn't matter. Like I said, its all in the wording of the charges and in a court room "rule of law" is the end all. One wrong or misplaced word gets a rapist or murderer acquitted. It is what it is. The prosecutors know this, they gambled and lost.

    58stillers-Self defense does NOT have to be a life threatening event. Self defense has many many levels and can even be extended to family members or property. It cannot be properly examimed here in this limited forum but very basically everyone has personal space that's not to be uninvited invaded. If there is an aggressor the .. "victim".. can "up" the level of force by one to stop it. You punch me I can defend myself with a stick, you attack me with a stick I can use a knife. You attack me with a knife I can use a gun. This sort of thing. Now if I punch you( I'm the aggressor) and you defend yourself legally with a stick and I then up it and defend myself with a knife then I'M guilty by rule of law because I was the initial aggressor. I cannot up the level of force to defend myself since I started it.

    All the media is saying that the three guys have been found innocent of stabbing Adams. They're wrong. They did stab and is accepted, they were found innocent of the charges that were brought forth by the prosecutor.

    Adams being drunk with a BAC of .185 has added many levels and complicated things. Bad judgement on Adams part, should not have been there or getting drunk considering his code of conduct clause in his contract he signed especially since his weed issues out of OSU and heading into the draft.


    Cajun-
     
  24. 58stillers

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    Cajun, I understand what you're saying. I'm not sure about PA, but in OH you cannot use deadly force for self defense over property. Every state varies. Obviously the prosecutor didn't prove their guilt, but sometimes these jurors need to understand.... beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't mean they need to see the actual crime occur on Youtube or something. End result was a stabbing over a spilled sandwich and a drunken outburst?
     
  25. Cali Steel

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    How did they get so many cleveland browns fans on that jury is my question.
     

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