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Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by mac daddyo, Feb 17, 2014.

  1. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    1. aaron Donald DT/DE Pitt hard to block. makes things happen and we may need a starter opposite heyward. he fits that bill.
    2. billy turner OT/OG ND St. smaller school that went undefeated but has all the tools. can play the money spot but could also play anywhere but C. nasty run blocker.
    3. CJ fiedorowicz TE Iowa solid TE that could take over as the #2 TE by mid season and become the future heath miller down the road.
    4. Jaylon Watkins CB Fla.St. good coverage corner, that could take the #2 spot by mid season allowing gay to go back to nickel.
    5. James Gayle OLB VT played with his hand on the ground at VT. big with speed. will be better with a DE covering him off the edge. will start as worilds BU.
    5. Marqueston Huff FS/CB speed and coverage ability. could eventually take over gays role and much more.
    6. Cody Hoffman WR BYU big wr. set all of BYU records. very good RZ target +. first down go to guy for ben in the slot. has starting ability if needed. steal at 6.
    7. Dan Sorensen SS BYU size, speed, range, good matchup for big TE's down the field. smart. good numbers in college. good ball skills and tackling.

    a little outside the box but fills lots of needs and future needs.

    :cool:
     
  2. TarheelFlyer

    TarheelFlyer Well-Known Member

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    I still think we should go CB, WR, CB or S, CB or S. That is where we need the help the most IMO.
     
  3. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    I like picks 3 and 4 particularly, but if the team picks Donald with pick #15, I'll hang myself with a noose of terrible towels and put it on youtube.
     
  4. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I think Donald is going to be a good NFL player but not at 15 and not in a 3-4 defense.
     
  5. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    Watkins CB, huff CB/FS two for one, Sorensen S.:shrug::cool:
     
  6. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    I read KC likes him. ya never know about kev. I will say the kid makes plays. I don't want you to hang yourself though TTF. LOL that's why this is an outside the box mock.:cool:
     
  7. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    Mac, you are all over the place with your mocks and wants :lolol:.

    I can't tell if you want to go secondary or O-line from one week to the next!

    That being said, I think Donald is strictly a 4-3 player. And he is going to be a great one too IMO.
     
  8. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    how does that work? what if they have him rated as the best dt and the best value left on board? should they pass on him just because he isn't projected to go there. I agree with you but I aint in that room. I guess I am saying if they take him they are smarter than I am. I will be honest when they took Hampton I thought the same thing. I hated it at the time
     
  9. HugeSnack

    HugeSnack Well-Known Member

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    Just curious, why did you think that about Hampton? Hampton was the ideal NT and we were absolutely desperate for a NT at the time. I always thought that pick was a no-brainer.

    The consensus on this guy is that he's a 4-3 DT, and we will likely have much bigger needs, with better guys on the board to fill those needs. I don't see the comparison.
     
  10. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    I think I remember wanting reggie wayne in the 1st and kris Jenkins somewhere later. I don't remember if that is even the right year. I am thrilled that they know better than I do cause I wouldn't have it any different now. that's why whoever they draft I will be happy. I think I just wanted someone in the later rounds if that was reggie draft. I wanted him
     
  11. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    This. Taking Hampton was the obvious pick, and a home run. Donald doesn't really fit in this scheme. He's a good football player though...don't get me wrong.

    His size alone is going to effect his draft stock.
     
  12. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    it's more about trying to figure out what the steelers may do. if I had my way it would be very different.

    I thought that about Donald too, but he did play some DE in college too. I know we ran a lot of two down linemen last year and two standup OLB'ers a lot. we had ziggy which is a better fit at DT too and heyward as the other. Donald would fit this bill very well steel, so I don't think it's a big stretch. he's only two inches shorter than ziggy. :cool:
     
  13. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Donald is more of a late first round pick and he's a better fit for the 4/3 defense.
     
  14. HugeSnack

    HugeSnack Well-Known Member

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    2 inches shorter than Ziggy, who is 2 inches shorter than we'd like him to be :hmmm:

    It's one thing to be 6'1" and 330 lbs. like Casey Hampton, and use that height to get under centers for leverage. It's another to be 6'1" and 290 lbs., and trying to keep 6'6" OTs at bay like our DEs are asked to do.
     
  15. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    that's what arnfelt will be for.:smiley1: in the two down pass rush sets we used last year, he could be just the answer. he can get under a tackle as easy as a center or guard too. watch some film, he leaves a lot of tackles grasping at air and off balance. he gets into and under them so quickly that he knocks them off balance and he's gone by the time they recover. we wanted our DE's to put more pressure on, if you remember last year. we are trying to get away from the old style of our DE's just tying up blockers which is also a way to free up OLB'ers too. ziggys trouble was always getting off blocks, this kid can. :cool:
     
  16. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    I am a little biased, Aaron Donald will
    make someone a good ball player,
    I don't see us taking him. Like others
    have said, I too feel we have just too
    many other needs. DB's & LB's
     
  17. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I like Donald a lot, but like many have said - he's a pure 4-3 tackle. More specifically, he's a pure 1-gap 3 technique.

    Mac, I understand what you're saying about using him to get an inside pass rush, but what you'd effectively be doing is drafting a guy at pick #15 to be a specialty 3rd down player.
     
  18. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    most thought pete carroll was crazy for taking bruce Irvin that early too as a specialty player. what are we lacking on D? a pass rush. Donald is not a one down player either, I definitely disagree with that elvis. Harrison was an undersized player too and did pretty well against 6-6 tackles. leverage and quickness are deadly. I'm not saying he's my number 1 player to pick but definitely an option for us. if you look at last year we were in that two down lineman set an aweful lot. they found out the couldn't block heyward with one guy out of that and if they throw another guy that can't be blocked with one guy at them it sure would free up the OLB'ers. I'm not seeing a big downside to a player like him.:cool:
     
  19. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    Mac you make a good point on Donald. And I think the Rooneys would be sick to see another kid from their backyard get away on them. Its a tough call, because I really like Donald. And I think we should be moving towards the 4-3 anyways. That being said, I still think it was a mistake for Seattle to burn the 15th pick on Bruce Irvin. It all depends on how the Steelers were going to utilize Donald.
     
  20. SGSteeler

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    Mac. I know Harrison was undersized and did well against big OT's, but James was an OLB not a DT so athletically they are not even close to the same caliber. I think he could be a good player in the right place, but he just isn't big/good enough to be a 3-4 DE in the NFL. No way.
     

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