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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by TheSteelHurtin2188, Jan 28, 2014.

  1. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    There are rumors that the Texans and cards want to trade for Be i really wish they wwouldgive it a break he iisn'tgoing anywhere get over it and stop trying to stir **** up.
     
    TheSteelHurtin2188, Jan 28, 2014
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  2. bigsteelerfaninky

    bigsteelerfaninky Well-Known Member

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    bigsteelerfaninky, Jan 28, 2014
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  3. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I think it would take an insane deal like the redskins gave for rg3 to get Ben
     
    TheSteelHurtin2188, Jan 28, 2014
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  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I would leave a big pile of :bscow: on Charlie Campbells keyboard if I could because thats all that article is worth.
     
    Blast Furnace, Jan 28, 2014
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  5. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    This must be why Kirby Wilson left!












    :hehehe:
     
    TerribleTowelFlying, Jan 28, 2014
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  6. TarheelFlyer

    TarheelFlyer Well-Known Member

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    Couple of notes:

    1. To compare value it would take to get Ben with Alex Smith is insulting.

    2. While we MIGHT move Ben, unlike SF, we don't NEED to move him. Add that to the value he is already above A. Smith, and the discussion should start with a #1 and go up from there.

    3. The only way the Steelers move Ben is if the deal is insane.
     
    TarheelFlyer, Jan 28, 2014
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  7. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    I think the insanity would be to move Ben in the first place.
     
    blountforcetrauma, Jan 28, 2014
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  8. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    It depends on what you get in exchange. I don't think you take anything off the table. But with regard to the article, this is just another guy with an internet connection typing whatever he wants. Hey wait, that sounds like me. :eek:
     
    jeh1856, Jan 28, 2014
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  9. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    If they told me I had to trade this whole roster Ben would literally be the absolute last person I would get rid of. I just can't see the Rooney's doing this and especially not this year with them apparently looking at defensive players and wide receivers at senior bowl week.
     
    blountforcetrauma, Jan 28, 2014
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  10. TarheelFlyer

    TarheelFlyer Well-Known Member

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    By insane, I mean something like....


    Ricky Williams trade at draft....

    Washington Received

    • Pick #12 (Rd. 1) in the 1999 NFL Draft
    • Pick #71 (Rd. 3) in the 1999 NFL Draft
    • Pick #106 (Rd. 4) in the 1999 NFL Draft
    • Pick #144 (Rd. 5) in the 1999 NFL Draft
    • Pick #179 (Rd. 6) in the 1999 NFL Draft
    • Pick #218 (Rd. 7) in the 1999 NFL Draft
    • Pick #2 (Rd. 1) in the 2000 NFL Draft
    • Pick #64 (Rd. 3) in the 2000 NFL Draft
    New Orleans Received

    • Pick #5 (Rd.1) in the 1999 NFL Draft


    Maybe something like the 8 draft picks for Herschel Walker.

    Those would be the only time I would consider it. Even then it must be an admission that we are rebuilding.
     
    TarheelFlyer, Jan 28, 2014
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  11. darcrav

    darcrav Well-Known Member

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    that is insane
    and the only way I would do it too
    I'm hard on Ben butt not willing to just get rid of him


    in hindsight Ditka could have said 1 ounce for Ricky

    the Walker trade was a little different wasn't it the entire offensive line from minny?
     
    darcrav, Jan 28, 2014
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  12. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    I don't know I think it might've taken a whole patch for Williams. LOL. Yeah those are colossal trades. It's crazy to think that happened. That move probably forever tarnished the legacy of Ditka and I don't see the Rooney's ever going for something like that.
     
    blountforcetrauma, Jan 28, 2014
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  13. gpguy

    gpguy Well-Known Member

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    :facepalm:
     
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  14. BobbyBiz

    BobbyBiz Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't put too much stock in a story written by someone who CAN'T EVEN GET THE DATE CORRECT.

    :rolleyes:
     
    BobbyBiz, Jan 28, 2014
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  15. darcrav

    darcrav Well-Known Member

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    gotta admit
    some of the comments on the article are pretty funny

    Ian Rappapport:

    I"M THE SOURCE FOR CHARLIE
    :roflmao:
     
    darcrav, Jan 28, 2014
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  16. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    LOL! It's like you're slowly coming apart at the seams and just ready to explode nuke style!
     
    blountforcetrauma, Jan 28, 2014
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  17. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    First of all, if we want a shot at sniffing the postseason for the next 3-4 seasons we need to re-sign Ben. But, if Ben plays hardball and an owner out there loses his mind and offers us the keys to the kingdom, you've at least got to keep your options open. But the way I see it, the Steelers have Ben for a minimum of the next 3 years if they franchise him.
     
    JackAttack 5958, Jan 28, 2014
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  18. dobbler-33

    dobbler-33 Well-Known Member

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    As if we could even sign all the possible picks anyhow. Hahahaha not too mention half of wouldn't see the field for 3 years. No thanks some teams have spent decades worth of countless picks trying to field a half ass decent QB and Ben is far above half ass decent.
     
    dobbler-33, Jan 28, 2014
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  19. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Hmmm... so "sources" have told the author that the Rooney's are reluctant to give Ben a new contract. We all know that "sources" are never wrong, so we may as well have that going away party now.

    Seriously though, I do have a concern that Ben's camp will ask for an extension that is simply beyond what the team will commit to, and that an impasse could be a difficult distraction in 2014. He actually has 2 years left on his contract, not one like the author reported. I would really like to see him get resigned this offseason so that the team knows exactly what it has available in funds to build around him for a run in the 2015-16 time frame. I don't see a plausible scenario where the team moves him this offseason, but next year could be a different scenario if there is truly a huge gap.
     
    Steel_Elvis, Jan 28, 2014
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  20. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    All he's doing is reporting the same garbage as Ian Rapoport of NFL Network did last season. Art Rooney II said he wants Ben to retire a Steeler.
     
    steelersrule6, Jan 28, 2014
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  21. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    I agree SE, no malcontents wanted on this team,
    especially at the QB position LOL.Its either NOW or NEVER for a deal to get done.
     
    Wardismvp, Jan 29, 2014
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  22. TarheelFlyer

    TarheelFlyer Well-Known Member

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    We would actually have no problem signing all of those draft pics. Ben will probably get near 20 million per year. If he does that leaves 2.5 million per player per year. Jarvis Jones rookie contract will cost the team 2.125 million per year as a first round pick. We could sign all of those picks and still have money left over.

    Now that being said, it honestly doesn't make sense for us at the moment. Like you mentioned, you need a plan for a QB replacement, especially when you are dumping a franchise QB like Ben.
     
    TarheelFlyer, Jan 29, 2014
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  23. Homestead____Works

    Homestead____Works Well-Known Member

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    Geez, why let a 'filler' story ruin your day?
    :shrug:
     
    Homestead____Works, Jan 29, 2014
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