Great Article on Jason Worlids and I could't agree more

I really do believe that DL's schemes have been deciphered by much of the league and that he has been a little slow to adapt. It's just time for DL to move on and give the next Richard LeBeau an opportunity. But that's a discussion for another thread.

 

Yes but will we as fans be able to take the growing pains that comes with that transition? I believe that is what people are seeing this year, fans are seeing young talent out on the field and there are growing pains, the vets are so used to having guys back their gambles and it isn't their, the new starters are playing well but also making mistakes. Any new Dc is not going to turn this defense into what it was in 2008 or during Blitzburgh hey day or even the Steel Curtain immediately it will take time and the question we need to ask is can we as fans be ok with that. I think we have shown that we are not happy as a fan base with change.

 

This. And it all starts at the top folks.MT is
the one at the top.

 

That's the way I saw it as well. Clark blew it on that play (and several others this season tbh) which allowed Pryor to make that run. DL had a man available in his scheme. His man just happened to blow it and bit on the fake....hard.

 

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2013/10/timmons-says-pryor-td-run-was-on-him/

Timmons was the guy out of position on that run jack. here was the story on it. if you remember this was a problem for Timmons earlier this year. he allowed some big runs getting caught up inside, where he shouldn't have been.

 

Thanks, mac. I remember Timmons stepping up and taking the blame. But what about all those other offensive records we've allowed on defense this year?

http://thesteelersfans.com/forums/showthread.php?7807-This-is-more-concerning-than-the-losing

And the hits have kept on coming. We allowed Ryan Tannehill to go on a 48 yard jaunt. We've given up 50 yard plays like they're going out of style. We can't seem to stop the run anymore and still have issues generating a consistent pass rush. We can't get off the field at critical times. The incident in Oakland wasn't isolated which indicates to me that we have way more issues with scheme than we do a player being out of position on occasion.

 

t-roy playing ilb and clark guessing. Timmons getting out of position and not just a couple of times. Woodley has never been great against the run. worilds and a rookie on the right. Williams and Wilson starting at the other ILB spot. mclendon injured. there are a lot of reasons that can be attributed besides scheme. mostly it's the linebackers we have. our DB's shouldn't be leading the team in tackles after one LB. not to mention he has problems at times too. I think we have a players problem more than scheme.

 

I agree. We were ranked #28 out of 32 teams by the blog staff on NFL.com for best (or worst!) defensive nucleus, so our defensive issues may not improve anytime soon. Not that these guys are gospel or anything, but they have a better pulse on league-wide tendencies than many of us.

 

Okay, then, here's an honest question. If the players and not DL are getting the blame when the defense performs poorly, should the players and not DL get most of the credit when the defense performs well? When the defense was doing well, all we heard about was the defensive genius of DL and how his scheme was the best in the league. I don't know, it just seems like some coaches, Belichick for instance, have a knack for taking less talented players and getting the most out of them based on the schemes and strategies they employ.

 

Most of the issues are due to really bad brain farts by the players. Our defense isn't really that bad, just a lot worse than what we're used to seeing. Our defense has been tops in the league the past 10 years, and the one constant is DL (and Troy!) DL deserves all the credit he gets. We do need to get more contributions from our younger players, though, and to get them ready sooner than we have been. We haven't been getting a lot of uncontested rushers lately, so I do think the overall scheme is getting a little long in the tooth. Not much more you can do to disguise your scheme when you're 80 years old and have been running it (successfully) for many years.

 

belicheck had the worst defense against the pass last year. it hasn't been all that great.

our guys do get credit when they are good. they make a lot of money, go to pro bowls, and some to the hall. up until this group mostly picked by MT and Colbert. not all guys can be coached up to be pro bowlers. you either have it or you don't. we have a lot of role players and not a lot of play makers on defense and the last of the best players are old, and near retirement. again not the schemes fault. some of the young guys will have to become the next playmakers. they may not be here yet.

 

Coaches like Belichick seem to get more out of less because they scheme to attack the opponent of the week's specific weaknesses. The Steelers especially under DL try to force the weekly opponent to adjust to them. Which when they were attacking from multiple sngled and showing one thing and doing another sowed confusion in opposing offenses not so much anymore. The do what we do mentality isn't cutting it anymore.

 

I predict
they will be
Worilds apart on a contract agreement

 

Weak sauce. C'mon Jen you've done better. Thats pretty much a lay-up.

 

dammit Bobby !
lersgo
spelled his name worlids
get on his ass for a change

 

dude im a math teacher...i cant spell

 

that sums it up

 

UNSKINNY BUMP

 

No. If you go back and watch the games are problems were execution based. During every play each player has a job. If they don't do that job bad things happen. Look at the terrel pryor td run. Everyone did their job except for one player and boom. Pryor threw for 88 yards in the game. That's hardly having having your defense deciphered by a marginal qb.

 

the defensive front did pretty well as far as pressure this year. everyone was screaming for more pressure.

he did it with backups basicly. worilds didn't just get better on his own. heyward had a breakout year. they used different fronts this year. ( two down linemen and two OLB's alot) and troy as a rover. woods as a NT sometimes and as a DT others. remember ziggy and keisel and mclendon were either benched part of the year or injured so we did it with backups at alot of positions.

my point is it's not just the same old DL system in place as most want to blame it on. it is changing and it is getting better pressure.

we do have a young safety that was playing and an old safety that was playing along with a couple of guys at CB that don't have tons of time on the field the last couple of years. we have a slower older troy. a slower older ike. a new OLB. 3 new ILB'ers. what the heck is the same about DL's tired old defense? to say the league has figured it out is crazy. it's been run totally different and with mostly different and old players learning new things against a new type of NFL offenses. blaming the tired old scheme isn't true. that dog just don't hunt.

 

What about all of the other mediocre quarterbacks (Cassell, Locker, Tannehill, etc) who seemed to be able to pick our defensive backs apart and exploit our coverages? What about the marginal offensive lines who seem to know where our blitz package are coming from all the time? The great DL has been figured out by much of the league IMHO.