No one turns 1-10 into 3rd and long better than T_dd Haley

No O in T_dd

I really have been trying to get on the Haley bandwagon...I thought he was really going to help Ben develop.....I think I was wrong.

This O does not ATTACK a defense...I am not asking for 30 yard bombs all afternoon... but they spend to much time with delays and screens that don't work....then expect Ben to just play superman on 3rd and 15.

That being said...Haley didn't miss two gimmie FGs (6 points)

Haley didn't let a punt be blocked (7 points)

Haley didn't let a QB run 93 yards (7 points)

This team is good enough to beat any team in the league....this team is not good enough to overcome more than 1 gaff a game.

But back to Haley...to much east and west...not enough north and south...

HACK

 

Yea I agree completely. The team has absolutely ZERO vertical game at all. And this is a really bad thing. Why? When you need to score a TD and only have 90 seconds to do it, if your offense is based on little dinks and dunks that take 9 minutes to move 50 yards, there is no way you are going to have a high chance to score in 90 seconds. We saw this today.

It just burned me to the core to see them come out in the second half, take a long and consuming 9 minute drive, and not come away with any points.

Remember in Tomlin's first press conference as a Steeler where he said "You are going to see some really awesome 2 yard runs"? That should have been a sign right there.

 

I don't disagree, but Denver uses probably more screens and draws than we do, and they use those plays to put points on the board. There's nothing wrong with draws or screens, they can be effective plays when called at the right time and executed properly.

 

Haley didn't drop a sideline pass on 3rd and 10 on a critical drive either (see a brown), nor a 3rd down drop that ended in an int (see a brown again).

unfortunately I only saw highlights (and low lights) of the game.

 

I like that no O in t-dd thingy

 

After the 93 yard run and the key third down conversions we gave up, our defensive coordinator's name must be _ick LeBeau.

 

Like no Management in _ike Tomlin.

 

Might as well add.... No "Tough" in --dd Haley or -ike --mlin

 

You are exactly right. We don't have an explosive offense to come back from a deficit. They only get a sense of urgency when it's 2 minutes left in the game. But when you have an oline with multiple injuries and not even good with your starters its hard to make a come back

 

Tough to run a game plan from a 14 point hole, that being said at that point you throw out the game plan and you adapt and overcome. Tell Ben to call the plays he likes. Run no huddle the rest of the game, run the hurry up and don't give them a chance for a breather.

 

Is it just me, or does it seem the offensive play calling is trying to keep us from scoring.

It just looks like they (stupid losses='they', win/lose tough games='we') try NOT to score.

 

But to counter that argument: how can the Steelers have a vertical passing game with this line? This line is even worse than any other in Tomlin's tenure, and that is saying something. Ben can't get the ball down field because he doesn't have time. And if you go max protect (which still doesn't work half the time) it leaves few receivers in the field.

I don't want to come across as the Village Haley Apologist, but I just don't see what this guy can do when his hands are tied with this line.

 

This team is soft from top to bottom.

 

and has a QB that has stated in the media that last season he didn't understand why they had to change the names of plays they had under Arians if it is the same play and then started calling them by those names when they are in the hurry up. So now you have rookies trying to learn the playbook and Ben is calling his buddy BA's play names and expecting them to know what he is talking about. I don't wnat to seem like a Haley Apologist either but I would like to see what he wants to do before I cast my vote to send him off the island. I don't think we have seen it thus far.

 

I think it's a little bit of both. The OLine has handcuffed the playcalling a bit, but Haley's playcalling has certainly handcuffed our Offense as well. I was trying to figure out what our offensive game plan was the entire game... all I could come up with is that Haley likes WR screen on first down, draw to Bell on second down, and lets Ben do the third down play. After we punt (or turn it over) he then adapts to the circumstances and calls draw to Bell on first down, and WR screen on second down. Gotta mix it up ya know??

I guess what it comes down to is that our offense blows, and it blows because the opposing defenses have us figured out. THAT is on Haley and Haley alone. Maybe try to get more creative? I mean, we don't score more than 20 anyways so at least trying something different and scoring 13 is effort (if not progress). Todd was given a 2 year contract right? I can guarantee that an extension hasn't even crossed the FO's mind, nor should it with the product we have on the field.

 

Well, a vertical attack would require defenses to keep defenders back, so they won't blitz 7-8 every play. It has been a trend over the past few years for teams to stop the Steelers by sending the house a lot. I remember this being the case back in 2008ish through now.

We don't even try to throw 15-25 yard passes, and thats what we need. Not the 50 yard bombs, but enough to pick up a first down in one throw.

I do agree though, that our o-line is at its worst than it ever has been. Perhaps bootlegs and waggles? I know they want to keep Ben in the pocket to protect him, but honestly the pocket is like a snipers nest for the past few years. Maybe rolling him out will save some hits. He is also excellent at throwing on the run.

 

I was saying earlier this year in a game thread that Todd Haley's life will be made in to a tv movie and it will be called "3rd and Long: The Todd Haley Story".

 

Should we call him Mike _omlin because he has no idea how to do any sort of Time management?

 

They tried to throw deep a few times Sanders and Brown drop too many passes. It's hard to have a vertical passing game when the O-line gets over powered on every play they gave up 5 sacks to a bad Raiders team.

 

Its not Todd.......it's the players. Todd is not out there blocking for Ben, Todd is not the one taking sacks when it's even clear to Stevy Wonder that he should get rid of the ball, Todd is not the one out there dropping passes. It's the players, plain and simple. The Steelers would be fools to fire the coaches. Did any one see Tomlin miss those two field goals? Has anyone seen any improvements since Bruce A. has moved on?