Haley is not the problem

Dick Lebeau is the problem with his predictable and outdated schemes the offense put up 27 pts against a scrub QB Cassel and they still lose. I'm so tired of the cornerbacks giving 10 yd cushions on every pass play duh if it's 3rd and 5 that's a gimme for the offense. That lame cross dog blitz doesn't fool any offenses and leave Polamalu in coverage instead of run blitzing the defense is giving up big pass plays Clark needs help. Why are the Steelers even playing a 3/4 defense if they're not putting max pressure on the QB.

 

I agree that Haley is not the problem. I don't think he's been given a fair shake at all either. You cannot lay blame at the feet of someone who gets the ball down the field only to see players fumble it away.

 

I agree that he is not the problem and Im a guy who doesn't think that they should have gotten rid of BA. He wasn't the problem either.

 

Sure you can. No one is free of blame when a team performs like this one has.

 

Yea, blame Haley for Redman fumbling through the end zone.

 

:this:

 

I don't think any OC can be successful with Ben as the QB unless he lets "Ben be Ben." The reality is Haley is a guy that wants to rely on timing, but Ben is not that kind of QB. Haley wants to try to turn Ben into Brady but it's simply not possible. I don't think Haley is the problem, he's just not going to have a ton of success with Ben under center. It's not a good fit.

 

Wrong!!

Haley is not the problem and neither is LeBeau. We have three main problems that has caused us to start 0-4.

1st) Big Ben-- He's been slow with his reads, in-accurate with his passes and careless with protecting the ball.

2nd) OL--- They are the youngest and most inexperienced in the league and they suck!!! At 1st it was gilbert but now Adams is so bad Ben may not survive past week 6. They can't run block or pass protect.

3rd)-- Tackling----- Its not the defensive schemes, they've had so many missed tackles a High school team could score on them.

Cajun-

 

Putting aside "careless with the ball" which has cost us a lot the past couple games.... he feels like #3 on the list... that pocket has been collapsing so quickly I gotta believe even when it's not, Ben is getting antsy. I can't directly compare with previous years but seems his accuracy was not *that* far off the mark last night... I only seem to recall a couple of really bad throws.

I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW BADLY ADAMS IS GETTING OWNED. Allen this week.... Peppers(?) last week. He was getting slapped around.

 

When did I blame anyone for Redman fumbling in the end zone?

How about an end around with your slowest receiver on a 3rd and 8? I guess that was Cotchery's fault.

 

I am with caj on this one that's for sure...

 

How quickly people forget. We did not have a good offense under BA either. We were very inconsistent and could not keep drives going. We relied on big plays to get points, which is fine when those big plays work, but often they didn't work. We were an average offense under BA and were very inconsistent. If people actually believe Ben is an elite QB then we should be better than average, but we never are. Bree's, Rodgers, Manning and Brady are never average. Those guys put up points and usually look good doing it. Rodgers has also had to deal with god awful Olines, but still puts up points. Enough excuses, Ben's career is filled with excuses. If he's an elite QB then he needs to start playing like one. I'm tired of blaming the Oline and coaches all the time. They deserve some of the blame of course, but when is Ben going to actually provide us with a top offense.

 

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2013/0...kely-to-improve-until-offense-starts-scoring/

This atricle supports what I have been saying. When we never have a lead and prove we can't score, the other offense feels no pressure and does not force things, thus no mistakes or gambles.

I would need to look it up for the whole year, but I seem to distinctly remember that the last 2 games we loose by the exact number of point as the other team gets points-off-turnovers.

 

Haley may not be THE problem, but he is definitely a part of it. His scheme does not fit the personnel we have, especially our QB. This, of course, is not to say we dont have a ton of other problems on this team and, yes, the D scheme is one of them.

 

Do you realize how playing from behind affects what a DC can do? We might have had 30 snaps with a lead so far and that seriously affects the defense.

 

Yep he has gotten conservative so we don't get blown out. At this point we might as well wise up and just go balls to the wall the whole game, because we aren't winning the way it is.

 

I think the reality is, Haley is only PART of the problem.

If he tries to run things which the team isn't equipped for, he is to blame.

He is not to blame for the fumbles or the interceptions.

He is to blame for not planning on getting an 8th game starter more help against one of the best pass rushers of all time.

He is NOT to blame for the poor tackling, or the lack of turnovers or sacks. Further he is NOT to blame for the lack of any focus in the 1st quarter in ANY game we have played this year. The team is not prepared to start and that goes on Tomlin and the players.

Personally, I think there are just too many issues right now to blame just one person or one thing. It will take time to fix one at a time whether the issue is personnel or coaching or strategy.

 

This is basically my exact sentiments in the thread I started about this. I guess the question is how long does Haley get to turn it around?

 

Tim Lewis got 3 years as D coordinator before he was finally cut loose. The Steelers are patient.

 

So how many anti-Ben rants is that? 2000? The Oline has consistently been the worst in the NFL, our RB's have sucked for years, Heath is our only TE and our WR's are midgets. There are maybe 3 starters on offense that should be starters right now, and Ben is one of them. The problem is not Ben. It is personnel. We have drafted badly and had bad player development on offense. Thats what happens when defensive-minded ownership hires a defensive-minded coach to run the team and then disregards what the franchise QB wants for an OC.

 

Exactly...please get rid of Haley. If your QB hates your OC, then guess who "should" win that one? The $100 million QB. We are 8-12 over the last 20 games and 2-9 over the last 11. It's not ALL his fault, but he needs to go and I was hoping it was going to be during the bye week!