Do we really game plan (Especially on offense?)

After last season and the start of this season, I really wonder, does our offense really game plan to attack the other team or teams weaknesses? It would be easy to say that due to Pouncey's early injury our whole game plan was shot, but I have seen this over and over again. I actually could go back to the Denver playoff game and say we didn't look to have a game plan then either but let's focus on the more recent with Haley. I remember distantly a game or two last year when Haley was credited with having devised a great game to lead us to a win (Of course, I do not remember which game(s) since that was so long ago.) I look at Bellicheat constantly looks for ways to take away a team's best offensive weapons. P. Manning seems to always be studying game tape and is a true student of the game. So, I ask you do our coaches, especially on offense really look to exploit the opposing team's weaknesses? It never seem so anymore to me!

 

It makes you wonder. My goodness sakes it make you wonder.
Don't you think guys would get tired of getting their asses kicked? And possibly start actually playing some ball.COACHES INCLUDED.

 

Does anyone really think that a professional coaching staff doesn't game plan? Honestly?

 

Of course they game plan if you can't block anybody the game plan gets blown up.

 

of course they have a game plan... thats rediculious to think they dont.. because if they didnt have a game plan ( tomlin and haley) on offense we would play much better to just let ben call a play in the huddle and play playground ball..
why dont we ever use the no huddle? couldnt be at worse at that.. basically they had zero points sunday until they gave us the garbage TD with less then 2 minutes to play.. so of course they game plan.. ben couldnt ever play that bad on his own...

HINES

 

All teams gameplan to try and take advantage of the oppositions weaknesses. Some alot more detailed than others. I remember reading somewhere that the Pats. Put in tons of new plays a week,opponent specific. I really have serious questions about OUR preparation leading up to a game. How much do we actually accomplish in practice when we step out on the field we look so unprepared. When something doesn't work we have no answers,we never make any adjustments. We just seem to wallow in the filth that we created on the field. We are failing miserably in the basic fundamentals of football,that is why we look so pathetic. Everyone wants to point to the play calling as the reason but no one here actually knows the play that is called. More than likely it is the stupid mistakes ,blown assignments and the total lack of execution that makes us look so inept.

If guys aren't going to block than the best play call in the world isn't going to work, that's the bottom line. When they do actually do what they're paid to do its up to the skill position guys to get it done. We are still having way to many passes being dropped. When we are struggling like this somebody has to step up and make plays, even the tough ones. I'm sorry but I am and always will be a firm believer in You practice how you Play. I understand that there are things that happen out on the field that can't be accounted for or duplicated in practice,but I do believe that your foundation is established there.

There in lies the biggest problem. I don't think our guys are being properly and fully prepared to play an actual game against an actual team that is trying to destroy us. Just look at the Redman fumble fiasco, does that look like a team that is prepared. I can't actually put my finger on the problem. I think we have the talent on this team to be able to compete with anybody. The fact that we look so clueless can't be the result of just terrible players ,it has to be a combination of poor execution and poor coaching.

 

I could swear this is identical to the types of posts we saw in 2011. Is the problem, therefore, really Haley? Was it really Arians? I think you have good reason to ask these questions, but I'm no longer sure they can be directed at our OC.

 

My rambling... Sorry but I am still ticked off....

While I believe they have some things planned, I do not believe we truly ever attack the other team's weaknesses. Did you see how Denver ate Baltimore up last game anytime they blitzed? They were waiting for Baltimore to blitz last Thursday and they shoved it right down Baltimore's throats. Yes, I know Peyton is great but still, we should have had a plan for the TN blitzes. It was obvious that they were going to try and knock Ben out. Teams know that if you hit him he will be off his game or come out of the game. Teams (Especially inferior) know without Ben out, their chances are that much greater to beat us. Did Ben ever roll out? As I watched TN run straight up the middle again and again to go after Ben. Yes there was no Pouncey, but that's why a QB moves.

There are no excuses to way to lose to inferior teams which we did in the Denver playoff game and still do now. Are we overconfident? Maybe, but I still think there is a lack of game planning by our coaches. We should look like we were thinking about how to beat TN all summer and play like we were pissed off.

We should be attacking all game long. No Redman handoffs on the one yard line! SCORE the ball right away on first down by being unexpected. No predictable plays. Granted Jones was not in the game when he should have been. (He forgot to get on the filed is what I read.) In the red zone we should be going right for the end zone on play one and not bubble screens or 1 or 3 yd passes when we need four yds to score. We have yet to run a screen pass to save out lives in preseason or now. It might go back to those other threads that we are just not coached well enough. There's my ran. Sorry I am just pissed with how we played just like we did all last year, like nothing has changed.

 

Yes and Tomlin said that a huge part of our plan was to use Beachum a lot to help on the edge but then Pouncey got hurt. He also said we had a plan in case Will Johnson had played. So not only do we plan. We MULTI plan. But I heard a commentator say today that the NFL is not about acting but reacting. He said ultimately the great coaches adjust on the fly and overcome. We didn't seem to be able to do that yesterday.

 

Yeah a titans fan at work was talking smack today and I said "I just hope you realize that it wasn't as much about your talent as it was our suckage." He said he actually agreed with that. I mean the Mud dogs would have beaten us yesterday.

 

I don't know if this is true or not but I read on espn.com earlier that we do NOT gameplan. The article was basically saying that Ben draws the plays out on his hands in the huddle or sometimes in the grass. I highly doubt that but maybe someone can find that article and add the link. I THINK it was on espn.com or bleacher report or something.

 

if you change the last word of your post to EVER... i could agree 100%.. we never make halftime ajustments

HINES

 

thats total BS.. IFFFFFFFFFFFFF ben drew the plays in the dirt we would be a far better team .. so i know thats not true .. haley for sure is calling the s*&t we are seeing... like when we were on the 4 with 1:55 left and haley kept ben throwing to the 3 yard line instead of into the EZ...dotn put that pi$$ poor preformance on ben

HINES

 

Well we've had games where we've looked different from half to half. Remember that game against the Rats in 08 at Heinz on MNF and we looked like GARBAGE in the first half and came out and got it together on both sides of the ball? Also I would say last year against Cincy on the road we made some adjustments too. But generally it seems we don't though.

 

Don't shoot the messenger. I was just telling you what the article said! LOL.

 

hahah... woundt you love to see haley run in a play with a guard and seee ben shake his head no... kneel in the infield dirt and draw a play in the dirt and it goes 70 yards for a TD.. be the #1 espn play of the season..

HINES

 

Yeah. LOL. That would be awesome!

 

My question is do we have Good Game plan with multiple built in adjustments?

It seems we don't and it seems we need to be .For instance why only practice zone blocking if you can't run or protect from it why not have a few sets of Power blocking?

Heck if nothing is working draw something up in the dirt.

 

I posted on another thread that do we still think preseason doesn't matter?

The attitude of accepting losing the players had during preseason translated on the field sunday.

 

can we make a serious game plan with ben ?

 

Hell yes we gameplan... It's part of the routine! Do we execute? Not very good, do we adjust on the fly? Not very good... And that goes for both sides of the ball!

Did Haley really call a bad game? That's personal opinion to whoever answers the question. From where I stood, I seen more fundamental breakdowns (dropped passes, lethargic play, lack of focus, etc...) than bad calls! We have all grown to hate certain calls in the last few years. BA couldn't call a screen any better than Haley as far as the results I've seen by the way. Oddly enough, bombs away had plenty of dropped catchable balls due to receivers not owning up to their paycheck! A lot of repeats with the long, intermediate, and short passes last Sunday and last season by the way.

You can call Tokyo with a great idea, but if nobody on the other end of the line has the sack to interpret the message, it's just another expensive phone bill, and vice versa. I think we really don't have the depth to start dog housing idiots in order to make a point and that's probably our main problem. Do we have the talent? Yep. Do we have the best attention grabbers in headsets? Ehhhh IDK! Do we constantly harass idiot play by naming the idiot? Yes and no, because their is always a positional foreman to blame.

Lot of correctable stuff can be made overnight, but if we have a room full of comfy half assers, the message will never get across.

I think THEY can turn it around, but I think most folks just show up to collect their paychecks from US! It is a WE thing and I wish all this appreciative hype would trickle up to those that suit up because damnit, regardless of blamed coaches... These players can get it done! They just can't get past the whatever it is going on, and we can't help but point varying fingers!

Plenty of blame to go around for sure, but at the end of the day... I don't blame bad grades on my kid's school teacher, I don't blame a hard days work on an idiot boss, and I don't blame society's fixable problems on the govt!
sure, every angle plays its part but lack of integrity and pride is something that can't be coached... People have to step up at some point and take the finger being pointed as a spoonful of medicine and UNF*** themselves!